B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
04-12-2009, 03:52 PM
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B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
I'm thinking of installing a B16b as opposed to a B16a. Is it worth the $? 15 hp. Where is that power made? in the head I suppose? Slightly higher compression @ 10.8 :1. I have an ITR tranny to mate it to.
04-12-2009, 04:01 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
I would rather have a GSR than both of those but thats me. power is made with the higher compression and the head flowing better with bigger cams.
04-12-2009, 04:15 PM
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If you want to leave it n/a then the b16b is a decent choice. But in the future if your going FI then I would stay with the b16a2 or with a b18c1.
04-12-2009, 04:29 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
the power difference is in the slightly higher compression, a more aggressive cam, a simpler intake manifold, and some guy named "chin" removing the casting flash from the ports. oh yeah, and the red valve cover.
if you already have a trans and are just looking for a long block, pick up a gsr... block girdle
displacement black valve cover knowing you avoided the hype
04-12-2009, 04:36 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
no, not worth it
the power difference is in the slightly higher compression, a more aggressive cam, a simpler intake manifold, and some guy named "chin" removing the casting flash from the ports. oh yeah, and the red valve cover.
if you already have a trans and are just looking for a long block, pick up a gsr... block girdle displacement black valve cover knowing you avoided the hype
the power difference is in the slightly higher compression, a more aggressive cam, a simpler intake manifold, and some guy named "chin" removing the casting flash from the ports. oh yeah, and the red valve cover.
if you already have a trans and are just looking for a long block, pick up a gsr... block girdle
displacement black valve cover knowing you avoided the hype
04-12-2009, 04:45 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
Very good! No posers allowed! I own two EGs. One is a fully built B16a that is a bitch to keep running and always breaks ****. My stock b16a performs at least 75% of my built car and is trouble free. Both LSD so pretty much apples to apples. I'm about to pull the built motor and install a stock DOHC for drivability. Put my built motor on a stand for garage ornament and status symbol. Needless to say I will have a lot of b16 bolt-ons and internals.
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
Very good! No posers allowed! I own two EGs. One is a fully built B16a that is a bitch to keep running and always breaks ****. My stock b16a performs at least 75% of my built car and is trouble free. Both LSD so pretty much apples to apples. I'm about to pull the built motor and install a stock DOHC for drivability. Put my built motor on a stand for garage ornament and status symbol. Needless to say I will have a lot of b16 bolt-ons and internals.
i'd clean the pee out of the built motor and put it in my living room... gangsta gangsta!
lol but yeah build it for boost or something later
04-12-2009, 05:14 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
I have a friend with an acid dipped Ferrari Boxer as the centerpiece of a coffee table. I don't have that kind of money! The motor destined for the stand has 10.5:1 CP pistons. I'll have to pull those if I want to turbo, right?
04-12-2009, 05:15 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
if u want a crazy high reving motor thats can take a beating then make a b16b 
take a gsr block and put b16 crankshaft and type r rods and pistons and and throw a b16 head on it with double valve springs and ctr cams and call it a day build costed me 600$ to do canadian $ to lol worth every peny lol and it makes as much power and torq as the real type r lol and after words if u get board throw the gsr crank in with itr rids and pistons and u got a itr
take a gsr block and put b16 crankshaft and type r rods and pistons and and throw a b16 head on it with double valve springs and ctr cams and call it a day build costed me 600$ to do canadian $ to lol worth every peny lol and it makes as much power and torq as the real type r lol and after words if u get board throw the gsr crank in with itr rids and pistons and u got a itr
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
the 10:5 would fly to a point... you could pull them and sell them and pick up a set of 9.5:1 or 9:1's to be safer. most people go this route because it allows a greater margin of error when tuning/operating the car.
because they are more aggresive?
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
i bet thats an awesome table. i've seen small blocks holding up glass tables
the 10:5 would fly to a point... you could pull them and sell them and pick up a set of 9.5:1 or 9:1's to be safer. most people go this route because it allows a greater margin of error when tuning/operating the car.
because they are more aggresive?
the 10:5 would fly to a point... you could pull them and sell them and pick up a set of 9.5:1 or 9:1's to be safer. most people go this route because it allows a greater margin of error when tuning/operating the car.
because they are more aggresive?
04-12-2009, 09:51 PM
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04-12-2009, 10:02 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
b16 cams<gsr cams< ITR cams. B16 cams are the smallest b series VTEC cams avaiable. my buddy did a dyno before and after and gained 8whp with gsr cams over b16 cams.
04-12-2009, 11:34 PM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
well the jdm sir2 is 170hp but the b16a2 is 160hp.. hrmm the b16b block is kinda like the b16a but I would say its more like a destroked b18cr... if you plan on upgrading the motor and building it, then I say get the b16a.. if you plan on keeping the motor the way it is and daily driving it then get the b16b..
04-13-2009, 07:51 AM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
I have Skunk2 stage 2 on hand. Would it be unwise to put those in w/o installing all the other head components? (dual springs, retainers, valves) Something about a stock motor w/ low mileage that runs good. I just dont want to break that factory seal unless I have to. With my experience it has been safer and more fun to run the **** out of a stock swap than build. So the GSR may be safer and more fun right out of the box.
04-13-2009, 08:42 AM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...m-guide-12660/
04-13-2009, 10:26 AM
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Re: B16b type-R. Worth the $ over B16a?
My bad. I just followed a thread about this and the OP got flamed for putting GSR cams in his B16. After some research, you are right. Here is a nice cam guide:
http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...m-guide-12660/
http://hondaswap.com/reference-mater...m-guide-12660/
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