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Old 11-12-2006, 06:34 PM
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Default b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy

like topic says b16b not getting spark, i changed the coil in the dizzy no luck, so then i changed the whole dizzy no luck, checked ignition fuse and all grounds no luck, swapped ecu even and still no luck.

please help b16b is in a 96 civic cx. i still have fuel pressure. any advice is appreaciated. it cranks but wont start. the car was running for 2 months then i was driving and then it backfired tach started jumping (motor was not revving though) and then it died. it tried to restart it a few times and it worked but died again, and now it wont start at all. HELP!!
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Old 11-12-2006, 08:07 PM
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Default Re: b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy (spoonracer84eg)

cool, search function is working now, i should be able to take it from here... i'll swap one out from my other civic (got 2 96's) and see what happens...
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ok, i changed it, car started for 2 seconds then died, tried to crank it agian, it cranked but didnt fire then it made a crazy sound after i stopped cranking like it was forcing air out of the intake or something then i notice a bunch of smoke coming from battery area...WTF is going on? i think my car likes to fry main relays what could be causing this?
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bump cause smoke is scary...
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hmmm Check all your fuses you might have a short somewhere.
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checked no luck all fuses are
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get a new relay
Old 11-15-2006, 02:48 PM
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i did it, see a few posts up for what happened...
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Default Re: b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy (blinx9900)

i'm saying you got it out of two other civics you had do they run?..just wondering i know honda main's go out all the time....
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Default Re: b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy (DBL)

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1385452 try this maybe it will help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DBL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm saying you got it out of two other civics you had do they run?..just wondering i know honda main's go out all the time....</TD></TR></TABLE>

that link is useful, thanks... im going to do some testing tonight and post what happens, thanks.
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no prob
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Default Re: b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy (blinx9900)

You have a bad ground somewhere.

The problem is NOT the main relay. The main relay does not affect spark production, only fuel delivery.
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i was told it does fuel and spark (i dunno) ... but all grounds are i'll check again though... i prefer if your right cause that cost $0 to fix
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The problem is NOT the main relay. The main relay does not affect spark production, only fuel delivery.</TD></TR></TABLE>

guess who was right? YOU!! i took the supposedlay bad relay out, slapped it on my daily and it started right up... i didnt have time to check the grounds and it was too dark... targe your i'll check grounds 2m...
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Default Re: b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy (blinx9900)

Stop throwing parts at it!

Make sure you are not getting a spark first. Take a spark plug wire out, crank the car over and see if you have a spark or not. If there is no spark then go to your ignition fuse with a multimeter and see if you get voltage there.

Tell me what you get and we will go from there.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fasthatchb18c1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Take a spark plug wire out, crank the car over and see if you have a spark or not. If there is no spark then go to your ignition fuse with a multimeter and see if you get voltage there.

Tell me what you get and we will go from there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that was the first thing i did (pull a plug and wire out and test it), no spark, i have a friend comming over with a multimeter later tonight... i'll post then thanks... also should i be cranking the car when checking the voltage at the fuse or just have the key in the on position? thanks again...
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Just have it in the on position.
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ok i just got the multimeter and put it on the fuse under the dash labled ign/coil it went beep beep beep... im not well versed im multimeter functions, but it appears to be getting a reading.
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Do you have it set on DC voltage?

Now you need to test for voltage drops on the ignition circuit. For the power side have the ignition turned on and put the positive meter cable on the + battery and put the negative cable on the wire that provides voltage to the distributor. With the ground side put the positive cable on the ground wire at the distributor and the positive cable on the ground of the battery. You shouldn't see more that a .5v drop on both these wires.

If you can source a wire diagram for your car that would make this a lot easier.
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Default Re: b16b not getting spark help!! its not the dizzy (fasthatchb18c1)

i had it set on mV here is the pick of the unit (click to enlarge) as for checking the voltage drop, that journey awaits for when i get home...

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just click it one over to the left.
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got it thanks...
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ignition switch maybe.


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