b16b?
06-21-2003, 06:04 PM
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b16b?
i want to put a b16b into my 2000 si and need to know is what do i need to buy. is there anything i already have that i don't have to buy and is the ctr a 6 speed. or can i keep my tranny?
06-21-2003, 06:25 PM
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Re: b16b? (insomniac791)
everything would bolt right in. you shouldn't need anything but the pct ecu, but IMO you'd be better off not to do the swap. b16b's are nice motors IN a HATCH, i.e CTR's.....not a heavy usdm civic si.
oh yeah,, the only difference in the tranny's are the ctr has better synchros and lsd. same 4.4 fd. (5spd)
oh yeah,, the only difference in the tranny's are the ctr has better synchros and lsd. same 4.4 fd. (5spd)
06-21-2003, 06:27 PM
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Re: b16b? (insomniac791)
Build the stock motor. Invest the money that you would spend on a swap into your b16a. I'm living proof that bolt-ons and mild cams = mid-low 14's in the 00 SI.
06-21-2003, 06:37 PM
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why the hell would you swap out a b16a for a b16b?! that is rediculous
build what you have with that money that youd waste and you could beat any stock b16b
or if youre hell bent on swapping get a b18c1/5
build what you have with that money that youd waste and you could beat any stock b16b
or if youre hell bent on swapping get a b18c1/5
06-21-2003, 06:42 PM
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Re: b16b? (allmtr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...just use the money to build the motor u got. it will be much better than a ctr motor....</TD></TR></TABLE>
if you put the same stuff, pct pistons, cams, valvetrain, intake maifold, CAMGEARS, VAFC, you will have a stronger motor than a b16b.
if you put the same stuff, pct pistons, cams, valvetrain, intake maifold, CAMGEARS, VAFC, you will have a stronger motor than a b16b.
06-21-2003, 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or if youre hell bent on swapping get a b18c1/5</TD></TR></TABLE>
swapping a B16A for a B18C1 is like trading a sprite for a 7up.
B16B's are good because their shorter stroke and balanced crank shaft make it possible to rev much higher, but the only difference you'll see over the B16A is the top end power. if i were you, i'd use the money youre going to spend on the B16B and just build your head, get a B18C1 or C5 shortblock, sleeve it, bore it out to 84mm, aftermarket rods and piston's and you're set. you'll have a 2.0L poor man's type-R for the same price you were going to spend on a factory longblock.
swapping a B16A for a B18C1 is like trading a sprite for a 7up.
B16B's are good because their shorter stroke and balanced crank shaft make it possible to rev much higher, but the only difference you'll see over the B16A is the top end power. if i were you, i'd use the money youre going to spend on the B16B and just build your head, get a B18C1 or C5 shortblock, sleeve it, bore it out to 84mm, aftermarket rods and piston's and you're set. you'll have a 2.0L poor man's type-R for the same price you were going to spend on a factory longblock.
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06-21-2003, 08:00 PM
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Re: b16b? (insomniac791)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by insomniac791 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want to put a b16b into my 2000 si and need to know is what do i need to buy. is there anything i already have that i don't have to buy and is the ctr a 6 speed. or can i keep my tranny?</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry no one here knows how to read...
all you need is the motor it self. the rest swaps over
sorry no one here knows how to read...
all you need is the motor it self. the rest swaps over
06-21-2003, 08:06 PM
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Re: b16b? (R you serious)
b16b is a GREAT ENGINE>>>>>>b16a is not same thing!!! even with ctr pistons!!!
contact chad
843 760 4804 if you are serious about buying a b16b.....i have access to a BRAND NEW B16B for 4800 plus shipping!!! BRAND NEW!!! oil have never been put in!
contact chad
843 760 4804 if you are serious about buying a b16b.....i have access to a BRAND NEW B16B for 4800 plus shipping!!! BRAND NEW!!! oil have never been put in!
06-22-2003, 12:46 AM
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Re: b16b? (chad)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16b is a GREAT ENGINE>>>>>>b16a is not same thing!!! even with ctr pistons!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
B16B is basically a destroked B18C-R with a different exhaust cam and higher domed pisotns.
BTW 4800 + shipping is a rip off for a long block.
B16B is basically a destroked B18C-R with a different exhaust cam and higher domed pisotns.
BTW 4800 + shipping is a rip off for a long block.
06-22-2003, 12:48 AM
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Re: b16b? (Btown_99Si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btown_99Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
B16B is basically a destroked B18C-R with a different exhaust cam and higher domed pisotns.
BTW 4800 + shipping is a rip off for a long block.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Different intake cam, you mean. Close enough though.
B16B is basically a destroked B18C-R with a different exhaust cam and higher domed pisotns.
BTW 4800 + shipping is a rip off for a long block.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Different intake cam, you mean. Close enough though.
06-22-2003, 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btown_99Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
B16B is basically a destroked B18C-R with a different exhaust cam and higher domed pisotns.
BTW 4800 + shipping is a rip off for a long block.</TD></TR></TABLE>
IT IS BRAND NEW.......did you read that.....BRAND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with dizzy and alternator......would you like a picture???
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=527377
B16B is basically a destroked B18C-R with a different exhaust cam and higher domed pisotns.
BTW 4800 + shipping is a rip off for a long block.</TD></TR></TABLE>
IT IS BRAND NEW.......did you read that.....BRAND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with dizzy and alternator......would you like a picture???
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=527377
06-22-2003, 04:15 PM
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Re: b16b? (chad)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chad »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
IT IS BRAND NEW.......did you read that.....BRAND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with dizzy and alternator......would you like a picture???
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=527377</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, that is a nice looking engine. but you can get a brand new B18C5 longblock from acura for under $4,000. i dont know what it is with people thinking B16B's are so super special, i saw someone on here trying to sell a used B16B head for $2,500. just cause its from japan doesnt mean you should ask more. but...its your motor.
EDIT: ah, i didnt see the mugen thread, that is a fair price then, my bad.
IT IS BRAND NEW.......did you read that.....BRAND NEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with dizzy and alternator......would you like a picture???
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=527377</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, that is a nice looking engine. but you can get a brand new B18C5 longblock from acura for under $4,000. i dont know what it is with people thinking B16B's are so super special, i saw someone on here trying to sell a used B16B head for $2,500. just cause its from japan doesnt mean you should ask more. but...its your motor.
EDIT: ah, i didnt see the mugen thread, that is a fair price then, my bad.
NICE! i would take that engine if i didnt already have one.
06-22-2003, 04:31 PM
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Re: b16b? (b20bastard)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20bastard »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">chad, you forget to mention it was a mugen n1 prepped engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
with no trans either. ~4800=
with no trans either. ~4800=
06-22-2003, 05:39 PM
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Yea this motor is well worth the 4800 tag. Not for a street car because with a street car IMO you can use alot less and still be happy. But if you want the best, you gotta come outta the pocket, and Chad has it! for the sale!
for the sale!
06-22-2003, 07:11 PM
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R motors are purpose built for racing, they both have two different personalities on the track, if youve never raced both, dont waste our time with your igsignificant commments, your ignorance is clouding others judments.. sorry if that sounds harsh, but im fed up with ignorance and biases on this board
06-22-2003, 07:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btown_99Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes, that is a nice looking engine. but you can get a brand new B18C5 longblock from acura for under $4,000. i dont know what it is with people thinking B16B's are so super special, i saw someone on here trying to sell a used B16B head for $2,500. just cause its from japan doesnt mean you should ask more. but...its your motor.
EDIT: ah, i didnt see the mugen thread, that is a fair price then, my bad. </TD></TR></TABLE>
fully balanced by mugen?? hmmm....naw......plus has dizzy, intake, tbody, alternator.......
you all have no clue...
if you haven't driven a b16b....then please do not respond....
thank you....please come again
yes, that is a nice looking engine. but you can get a brand new B18C5 longblock from acura for under $4,000. i dont know what it is with people thinking B16B's are so super special, i saw someone on here trying to sell a used B16B head for $2,500. just cause its from japan doesnt mean you should ask more. but...its your motor.
EDIT: ah, i didnt see the mugen thread, that is a fair price then, my bad.
</TD></TR></TABLE>fully balanced by mugen?? hmmm....naw......plus has dizzy, intake, tbody, alternator.......
you all have no clue...
if you haven't driven a b16b....then please do not respond....
thank you....please come again
06-22-2003, 11:21 PM
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Re: b16b? (R you serious)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R you serious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">R motors are purpose built for racing, they both have two different personalities on the track, if youve never raced both, dont waste our time with your igsignificant commments, your ignorance is clouding others judments.. sorry if that sounds harsh, but im fed up with ignorance and biases on this board</TD></TR></TABLE>
did you not read my edit? i thought it was a factory B16B untill i noticed the link to the thread. like i said before, good price for a good motor
did you not read my edit? i thought it was a factory B16B untill i noticed the link to the thread. like i said before, good price for a good motor
06-23-2003, 05:33 AM
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Re: b16b? (insomniac791)
do not waste your money on a b16b.......either build a b18c1/c5 block with a b16 head with a ctr intake cam. or just build a b20 with a b16 head........the b16b is just a waste. imo