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Old 01-24-2011, 02:49 PM
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What's up people. Just joined your wonderful site today..Must say, very informative. I've got a question & hopefully someone, anyone here can give me a straight answer..

So, quick & to the point. Picking up a 98 EK hatch (obd2) this weekend, she's got a B16aSiR2 (obd1) in her....... What can I do to pass emissions? I live in Illinois & the emissions place just plugs in, tests ya, then send you on your merry way. I just wanna be able to pass when the time comes.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

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You won't know until you do the test then. I'd do a full tune up just to make sure.
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Well, it's running OBD1 in an OBD2 vehicle is my issue I guess. I'm pretty sure it will not pass.. like 97.99%.. Soon as they plug it in, I'll have issues. Hellp?
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What are the state regs regarding that? This is an international forum. Maybe you'd have additional luck if you posted in a regional forum. Unless you're asking how to get around the test then you may be on your own.
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just convert to obd2 and run the appropriate ecu for it, a em1 ecu should work just fine, and make sure there are no check engine lights.
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you should be fine passing emission test... 1 of my friend have 97 del sol with 94 integra gsr. it passed the test. make sure theres no CEL
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you should be fine passing emission test... 1 of my friend have 97 del sol with 94 integra gsr. it passed the test. make sure theres no CEL
thats true, its not like we're ruled by the Terminator in the communist people's republic of Kalifornia lol
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you should be fine passing emission test... 1 of my friend have 97 del sol with 94 integra gsr. it passed the test. make sure theres no CEL

But with the car being a '98, the folks at the emissions place are going to want to plug in.. You don't think I'll have issues? It's not like the good ol days where they just suck your exhaust fumes in and pass or fail is based on that. I'm just trying to be proactive.
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Originally Posted by 92lxsleeper
thats true, its not like we're ruled by the Terminator in the communist people's republic of Kalifornia lol
yea i know about California.. thats why i wont live in California lol

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But with the car being a '98, the folks at the emissions place are going to want to plug in.. You don't think I'll have issues? It's not like the good ol days where they just suck your exhaust fumes in and pass or fail is based on that. I'm just trying to be proactive.
yea 98 is fine too... they will plug it in and test it then your on way. I dont think you will have issues.
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Originally Posted by 92lxsleeper
just convert to obd2 and run the appropriate ecu for it, a em1 ecu should work just fine, and make sure there are no check engine lights.

Em1 Ecu.. Is that the from a 99-00 Si?
Any idea on what else must be done for it to be compatible? Could I just run it for emissions purpose, then switch back to the one that's currently on there??
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Does it have check engine light on? if not you should be fine...

like i said about my friend. he had check engine light on so he paid few hundreds to get it fixed and No more check engine light on so he went to emission and passed the test the same day when he got it fixed.
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No, no lights on at all. Am I worried for nothing ya think?
I guess I have some ill feelings since my 92 hatch that had a b16 would never pass. Like, not even close.
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No, no lights on at all. Am I worried for nothing ya think?
I guess I have some ill feelings since my 92 hatch that had a b16 would never pass. Like, not even close.
Well maybe you are worried for nothing. they only do 1996+ for emission so 1992 dont do emission anymore.

they dont check your engine. California does check engine
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Well maybe you are worried for nothing. they only do 1996+ for emission so 1992 dont do emission anymore.

they dont check your engine. California does check engine

The cars a 98, sorry if I threw my old 92 hatch into the mix.
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You will need an OBD2 USDM B16 ECU (you could get away with an OBD2A GS-R or ITR ECU perhaps if you just wanted it for emissions testing.)

Ideal ECU is a '96 - '97 Del Sol VTEC ECU (P30) good luck finding one. Next choice is a '99 - '00 Si ECU (P2T) and a conversion harness. If using this ECU you will need to swap out the fuel tank for one with a fuel tank pressure switch. ('96 - '00 EX I believe, and IIRC all '99 - '00 Civics) you will in any case also need to make sure the secondary O2 sensor is there and working and you will need to perform the CKF trick shown here -> http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

Make sure you don't buy a JDM OBD2 ECU, it will not communicate with the scan tool so it's an automatic failure.
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You will need an OBD2 USDM B16 ECU (you could get away with an OBD2A GS-R or ITR ECU perhaps if you just wanted it for emissions testing.)

Ideal ECU is a '96 - '97 Del Sol VTEC ECU (P30) good luck finding one. Next choice is a '99 - '00 Si ECU (P2T) and a conversion harness. If using this ECU you will need to swap out the fuel tank for one with a fuel tank pressure switch. ('96 - '00 EX I believe, and IIRC all '99 - '00 Civics) you will in any case also need to make sure the secondary O2 sensor is there and working and you will need to perform the CKF trick shown here -> http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

Make sure you don't buy a JDM OBD2 ECU, it will not communicate with the scan tool so it's an automatic failure.
This is the answer to your question.
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Originally Posted by 94EG8
You will need an OBD2 USDM B16 ECU (you could get away with an OBD2A GS-R or ITR ECU perhaps if you just wanted it for emissions testing.)

Ideal ECU is a '96 - '97 Del Sol VTEC ECU (P30) good luck finding one. Next choice is a '99 - '00 Si ECU (P2T) and a conversion harness. If using this ECU you will need to swap out the fuel tank for one with a fuel tank pressure switch. ('96 - '00 EX I believe, and IIRC all '99 - '00 Civics) you will in any case also need to make sure the secondary O2 sensor is there and working and you will need to perform the CKF trick shown here -> http://technet.ff-squad.com/ckftrick.htm

Make sure you don't buy a JDM OBD2 ECU, it will not communicate with the scan tool so it's an automatic failure.

Thank you very much.
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