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Old 03-16-2012, 09:37 AM
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i prefer b18b1 over b16a1 all day, cheaper, stronger, no sluggish acceleration like b16, b16 feels pretty much like a d16y8, probably slower hahahaha
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:24 PM
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i want something thats going to be reliable... and that is ment for being abused, and not a motor that comes out of a family suv, and by MILD BUILD, ctr piston, nice set of cams, full port and polished head, itr ecu..
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Default Re: b16a2 for a ek is good enough for a daily driver?

Originally Posted by clos2193
i want something thats going to be reliable... and that is ment for being abused, and not a motor that comes out of a family suv, and by MILD BUILD, ctr piston, nice set of cams, full port and polished head, itr ecu..
Wow, if you are refering to th B20 as being only an suv engine think again! Ovesea's is comes in cars such as the orthia, which is based off a civc chassis. as is the crv. Don' give me any thing about the 2.0L B20 being a special truck engine, or any less reliable...it is a " B SERIES" engine.....very very reliable! In fact, excpet for the bore size, is IDENTICAL to the B18B found in the Integra, excpet the fact it makes more power

Adding CTR pistons in a B16 doesn't do much. I personally don't like them at all. i have owned 2 B1^ CTR engines, after only 25k the pistons were all caboned up due to the extreme dome and lousy burn at the bottoms of the domes. They don't even add much power.

A good head and cams can be added o any b series engine
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b16 is a nice engine,quick,reliable,decent gas mileage......

b18a1/b1 really cheap and will pull just as nice as a b16a if u have a b16 tranny

I know your asking about b16a but u should look in to b18c1 gsr best of both worlds.

all those motors listed on here are great options, its up to you in terms of budget and headaches lol

hope this helps and sorry for bad english
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:46 PM
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im not tryna have a track car... i juss wanna have a clean motor that i can drive 60+ miles a day not have a head ache about gas and be able to have some power so when i wanna have fun..

you want gas savings? if you're going to go through all the trouble with a swap, then get a b18b1. It is readily available and cheaper than a b16. It has the torque you need for DD and you can run regular gas in it. You want more power out of it? Mate it with GSR transmission.

i get 34mixed and 38-40 all highway on my 01 integra ls..and it is slightly heavier than your civic.

not to mention b18b1 are more reliable in regards to oil consumption. your typical b16 will almost always burn some oil while b18b1 burn non or very little, but then again it comes down to how well maintained the engines are.
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oh by the way i had a 92 eg hatch with b16a2 full head upgrade valvetrain, s2 pro cams and a findanza 7 pound flywheel mated to a GSR s80 tranny and tht was wicked fast for being a 1.6

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Answer : NO!

Every Daily Driver Should not be with out less then a K24 or K20!
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Answer : NO!

Every Daily Driver Should not be with out less then a K24 or K20!
You sir, have a stockpile of the most worthless posts I have ever read. If you people are going to answer with this tripe AT LEAST say WHY you are opening your mouth to say it,-as in, back it up with some reasoning. Otherwise you are contributing nothing.
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Ok So if i say k24's should be the minimum for any dd.
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Ok So if i say k24's should be the minimum for any dd.
That doesn't tell me SQUAT. If you're going to say stuff like then then say WHY you are saying. Otherwise you are just talking smack and looking ignorant.

Are YOU running with a K-series?
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A k build is usually the most exspensive swap to do. And depending on what motor u get. Any b motor is good for his car and depending on what he want and what money he has. My 93 hatch has a b16a2 and I keep door to door with my buddy's stock wrx.
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not all turbo cars have problems.... if u spend ur money in quality parts you wont have problems. its people that buy cheap ebay kits that have problems. i bought a edelbrock turbo kit for my d16 and havent had a problem yet with it and is plenty reliable as any stock b16 or b20 and make more tq and hp then any swap.
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Default Re: b16a2 for a ek is good enough for a daily driver?

Originally Posted by BobbyRodriguez
Ok So if i say k24's should be the minimum for any dd.
go spend over 3k just to swap a k24 in with no type s head and make less then 200hp and get walked by a stock turbo d16. you sir are full of ignorance ..... k24's are weak without a type s head...
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go spend over 3k just to swap a k24 in with no type s head and make less then 200hp and get walked by a stock turbo d16. you sir are full of ignorance ..... k24's are weak without a type s head...
or find yourself a k24a2. you sound just as ignorant.
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Originally Posted by TOO MUCH TORQUE
you want gas savings? if you're going to go through all the trouble with a swap, then get a b18b1. It is readily available and cheaper than a b16. It has the torque you need for DD and you can run regular gas in it. You want more power out of it? Mate it with GSR transmission.

i get 34mixed and 38-40 all highway on my 01 integra ls..and it is slightly heavier than your civic.

not to mention b18b1 are more reliable in regards to oil consumption. your typical b16 will almost always burn some oil while b18b1 burn non or very little, but then again it comes down to how well maintained the engines are.
Um...little generous with those mpg numbers wouldn't you say? No way your getting 38 mpg on a 10 year old 2001 integra with a b series and not some serious hypermilling.When acura released them it was rated as a 28mpg car brand new.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymod..._Integra.shtml
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Just a side note about the K series discussion, my friend and I were just talking about this. 2 guys we know have about 10k in civic k series swaps. Another buddy of ours just bought a rsx type s..for 6800. It has no problems, theres no tuning he has to do, no fixing this little problem, or that.

The rsx is just as fast as the civic swapped, and has full leather interior, navigation, etc etc etc. One of the civic is a Ej with, a gsr dash and stripped. Not exactly comfortable. Nor is it quiet, lol.

I love me some k series, however Id buy a rsx type s as a daily before I got involved in swapping it over or buying someone elses project---and save 5k and a month of wrenching.

Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by redm3turbo
Just a side note about the K series discussion, my friend and I were just talking about this. 2 guys we know have about 10k in civic k series swaps. Another buddy of ours just bought a rsx type s..for 6800. It has no problems, theres no tuning he has to do, no fixing this little problem, or that.

The rsx is just as fast as the civic swapped, and has full leather interior, navigation, etc etc etc. One of the civic is a Ej with, a gsr dash and stripped. Not exactly comfortable. Nor is it quiet, lol.

I love me some k series, however Id buy a rsx type s as a daily before I got involved in swapping it over or buying someone elses project---and save 5k and a month of wrenching.

Just my opinion.
Quoted for truth AGREED.

I never understood why people dump thousands and thousands for a K swap into a 15 year old chassis when you can get a nice Type S with leather seats and a sunroof.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I guess.
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Originally Posted by Red_Army
meh buy a b20 bottom end. build it. find a b16 head. vtec kit. tear shiz up. realiable, fast, pretty fuel efficient.

theres a thread on here that'll show you exactly how to do it.

still be as much or cheaper then buying a b16a whole.

i own a b16a and i like it but 500 bucks for 30+tq and probably 10-25hp. i'll take the time to work on a b20 side project block.
but if he buys a b16 swap it comes complete with ALL parts needed to run. if he starts with a b20 theres down time. having to track down parts, paying someone to assemble it RIGHT, finding a complete head. finding a trans finding axles the list goes on. to me easiest way is buying a complete b16 swap drive that around then just buy the b20 block and transfer the head trans clutch and everything else.
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or find yourself a k24a2. you sound just as ignorant.
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For a hatchbox, a B16 isn't bad at all. For a coupe, it's awful. I ended up ITR swapping my EM1 for that reason. I had a 99 DX with a JDM B16A and it was honestly pretty quick. I'd be more tempted to do a B18C blacktop (GSR/SIR-G)and a B16 trans as a better combo. Or an ITR swap.

The B16's bark is bigger than it's bite. It only makes power between 7000-8400RPM. That's kind of the biggest issue. But again, like I said, in a hatchbox, it's perfectly fine. Good choice if you want a cheap swap for a DD.
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like i said.. i dont want a race car... no need for a k series too much time and money. i juss want something i can drive on everyday be reliable and have some power for when i wanna have fun.
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And because you have YET to list any type of real budget you have answers that run the gamut. If people knew what you were willing to spend then you'd get realistic answers.
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budget 1400-2200$
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If you're not doing the work yourself your options are limited. Get the biggest most powerful engine you can afford that will INCLUDE installation. It's that simple.
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b16a2 full swap $1,650 for ek @ moshi moshi motors, shift linkage, axels, lsd tranny, etc. and me and my buddy are putting it in.. he always does swaps and they come out with no problems and his wire tucks come out great.
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