96f22b2

so there are two swapped out civic eg hatches, both in same condition, zero rust, low claimed miles on engine/trans. 92 civic is a b16a from a 99 si with I/H/E its white. then there another 92 civic with a b18c1 I/H/E and its that SI blue. my question is, is, which motor is better? theres like a 10% chance i might boost one nof them. i know b18's boost better. but N/A which motor is best for the EG hatch? I like the b16a IMO but i think im gona go with the b18. I just wana here what you guys have to say....selling the accord to my brother.

B18CivicEJ8

Seriously, this question gets posted at least twice a day. B18C1 all day, every day period. The B16 takes off like a D16 off the line. It isn't until you hit VTEC that you get moving. The B18C1 has a dual stage intake manifold take gives you more lower end "torque". You put equal drivers in both cars, and the B18C1 will beat it all day, day every day.

96f22b2

sorry :/ i searched and didnt find anything. Do you know what a b18c1 would run in the 1/4 mile? im only gona be taking it to the drag track once or twice as i autoX..

B18CivicEJ8

That I wouldn't be able to tell you for sure. There are too many variables involved. But a stock Acura Integra GSR should be able to run mid 15s with an experienced driver.

96f22b2

u got any pics of your b18 civic i could see? i checked ur profile and only found your build pictures..

i was gona go witht eh b18 anyway.

sorry for reposting such a frequent question..

my goal is to take down a 1996 turbo SR20 240sx. he stupid cuz he turbo'd his sr20 when were racing autoX he never gets past turbo lag.lol

hard_boiled_EG

i have a 92 vx hatch with 98 gsr...8lbs flywheel only with some dunlop dz101 195/50 everything else is stock and my best time was 14.2..o yea and open headers...

ALLxMOTOR EG

redlinetuning

I wouldn't say he's stupid. But there are many variables when you say you want to take down that turbo 240. What kind of course? autoX, road course/touge, drag? Who said a b16 isn't good for boost?

if you were going with the B18 anyway, why post?

96f22b2

ive just heard around the b18 like to be boosted more so then the b16. I posted cuz i wanted opinoins... and i said autoX twice.. read my post and U wouldnt ask questions. Not that hes stupid just turbos arent for autoX..

96f22b2

Sorry im new to civics and B series engines. Im a CD5 guy. my world is H22's and F22's.. I searched and found nothing. so u cud be helpfull and give me a real post.

96f22b2

I searched, found nothing helpfull, so I asked. Sorry I dont know B series engines that well.

redlinetuning

who says turbos aren't for autoX? i get full spool at 2400rpm. It all depends on how you do it.

oh.. and that "I've heard" BS ... even d15 motors like to be boosted.

autoX... I've beaten various cars when I had my stock D16, even Type Rs. It's all about the driver. If you can't beat him when he's not in boost, suppose he gets a smaller turbo and gets rid of turbo lag, what's plan B?

Actually, if you asked real questions like:

"What are factory hp ratings for B16A and B18C1?", people would be more open. when you ask silly, annoying questions like, "how fast will i go with x motor in y car?" People will give you crap becuase that's all relative and too many variables.

96f22b2

forget about beating him.lol or boosting my b18..the i heard was related to like the b18 having a longer piston stroke, idk it was awhile ago. so nvm about that..im not this serious about taking down the 240..so theres no need for a plan B. i just wanted opinoins about each car that i listed.

Atrain89

In N/a form the b18 is better, makes a little more hp, but also makes more torque. Esp if this car is your daily go with the b18, you will like it much better. I have a 99 si that I drive daily and believe me its torque less. If you do decide to go down the turbo route, either motor would be fine. My question for you is find out what tranny is in both of these cars. Because if the B18c is mated to a LS tranny is may not be as fun to drive as a closer geared GSR or B16 tranny.

redlinetuning

Actually, if you asked real questions like:

"What are factory hp ratings for B16A and B18C1?", people would be more open. when you ask silly, annoying questions like, "how fast will i go with x motor in y car?" People will give you crap becuase that's all relative and too many variables.

Therefore, when you know what your variables are, different motors, same chassis, which motor is stronger? Of course, B18C1. Logically the civic with the B18C would be relatively faster in acceleration. I'm not trying to be a ***** about this. It's more helpful to us help you better understand and answer your own question.

96f22b2

Since im NEW to B series engines dik which "logicly" is better. idk that. I know ZERO about the B series engines. but im willing to learn. It wasnt a question when i asked what the 1/4 mile time is. iwas a jw kinda thing. like a side note if someone knew the answer.

96f22b2

its not all in HP numbers that i care about redline. one could have less HP but have lower weight. that wasnt what I was wanting to know. i was talking about realiabilty, perofrmance but not HP ratings..

redlinetuning

performance is based on torque and hp ratings. Besides, that's the type of question that would have better feedback. Just a thought. Reliability comes from the owner who up-keeps the motor with routine maintenance.

But your initial question was "two eg hatches". Weight difference is minimal.

96f22b2

haha btw what are stock Hp ratings on a b18c? lol

minizc

gs-r should do better than mid 15s i live in qc and are tracks garbage and i run 14.9 all day with a b18b but i can drive my car

yoontim23

B18C

redlinetuning

for the lazy.. (now i'm being a *****)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine

2 minutes on google. you don't have to rely on "Honda-tech".

96f22b2

ok with its redline at 8100rpm whats the best shift point to shift at WOT?

96f22b2

I actauly am very lazy. hence why im buying a swapped car and not doing it myself XD im a noob and can make fun of myself.lol

that was helpfull tho.