B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2
10-14-2005, 08:10 AM
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ohhh...lookey, i got a new sig.
baseball, you're one of the dumb motha ****** as refered by the above...when you put tech info...make sure you know what you're talking about...dumbass. And when you put somebody in your sig, make sure they wrote it...loser. Why would you assume things about me over the internet like you seen me before??...maybe what you said about me is the first thing that came to your mind because thats what you are. Is talking shiet about other people gonna be your defense about stupid *** ignorant tech?
baseball, you're one of the dumb motha ****** as refered by the above...when you put tech info...make sure you know what you're talking about...dumbass. And when you put somebody in your sig, make sure they wrote it...loser. Why would you assume things about me over the internet like you seen me before??...maybe what you said about me is the first thing that came to your mind because thats what you are. Is talking shiet about other people gonna be your defense about stupid *** ignorant tech?
10-14-2005, 08:21 AM
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Let me say something about the JDM Second-Gen 170hp engine versus a good old US-Spec B16A2 from the 99-00 Civic Si.
My wife had a B16A2 with i/h/e and a rechipped P28 ECU (converted the engine to OBD1 this way) and it dynoed 143whp, 102ft-lbs. of torque.
A friend of mine had a JDM second-gen "170hp" swap in his hatch with the exact same ECU, but no intake and a worse exhaust. He dyno'd 151whp with 102ft-lbs. of torque.
So does the JDM engine really make more power? In this case it did, but is it a case of a freak JDM motor and an average B16A2?
Oh and lastly, and I really hate this ****:
THE OBD1 JDM SWAPS ARE NOT "SIRII" SWAPS!!! PRE-OBD SWAPS ARE NOT "SIRI" SWAPS!!! "SIRII" IS A TRIM LEVEL IN JAPAN THAT MEANS THE CHASSIS/BODY HAS EXTRA OPTIONS, LIKE COLOR-MATCHED MOLDINGS, ETC. ETC. REFER TO THESE ENGINES AS FIRST-GEN (PRE-OBD) AND SECOND-GEN (OBD1-2)!!!
My wife had a B16A2 with i/h/e and a rechipped P28 ECU (converted the engine to OBD1 this way) and it dynoed 143whp, 102ft-lbs. of torque.
A friend of mine had a JDM second-gen "170hp" swap in his hatch with the exact same ECU, but no intake and a worse exhaust. He dyno'd 151whp with 102ft-lbs. of torque.
So does the JDM engine really make more power? In this case it did, but is it a case of a freak JDM motor and an average B16A2?
Oh and lastly, and I really hate this ****:
THE OBD1 JDM SWAPS ARE NOT "SIRII" SWAPS!!! PRE-OBD SWAPS ARE NOT "SIRI" SWAPS!!! "SIRII" IS A TRIM LEVEL IN JAPAN THAT MEANS THE CHASSIS/BODY HAS EXTRA OPTIONS, LIKE COLOR-MATCHED MOLDINGS, ETC. ETC. REFER TO THESE ENGINES AS FIRST-GEN (PRE-OBD) AND SECOND-GEN (OBD1-2)!!!
10-14-2005, 08:54 AM
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let me say something about the JDM Second-Gen 170hp engine versus a good old US-Spec B16A2 from the 99-00 Civic Si.
My wife had a B16A2 with i/h/e and a rechipped P28 ECU (converted the engine to OBD1 this way) and it dynoed 143whp, 102ft-lbs. of torque.
A friend of mine had a JDM second-gen "170hp" swap in his hatch with the exact same ECU, but no intake and a worse exhaust. He dyno'd 151whp with 102ft-lbs. of torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>
also i dont know if this makes a diffence but when i chipped my ecu for uberdata, all of the resistors and and capacitors where in there and it was done with the same factory peices. all i had to do was remove the old chip and put in the socket. also there was a second board wired to the ecu, but i think that it's for the climate control. there is so many little extra things like this that add to the performance of the jdm b16
My wife had a B16A2 with i/h/e and a rechipped P28 ECU (converted the engine to OBD1 this way) and it dynoed 143whp, 102ft-lbs. of torque.
A friend of mine had a JDM second-gen "170hp" swap in his hatch with the exact same ECU, but no intake and a worse exhaust. He dyno'd 151whp with 102ft-lbs. of torque.</TD></TR></TABLE>
also i dont know if this makes a diffence but when i chipped my ecu for uberdata, all of the resistors and and capacitors where in there and it was done with the same factory peices. all i had to do was remove the old chip and put in the socket. also there was a second board wired to the ecu, but i think that it's for the climate control. there is so many little extra things like this that add to the performance of the jdm b16
10-14-2005, 06:23 PM
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Re: (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So does the JDM engine really make more power? In this case it did, but is it a case of a freak JDM motor and an average B16A2?
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The compression ratio increase sure can't hurt, did they both have cats?
As to this stupid argument about quoting each other in sigs, I wish mods would come in and delete the retarded argument that should have been over PM's. Further quoting people in sigs is stupid I wish there was a petition to make it stop.
So does the JDM engine really make more power? In this case it did, but is it a case of a freak JDM motor and an average B16A2?
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The compression ratio increase sure can't hurt, did they both have cats?
As to this stupid argument about quoting each other in sigs, I wish mods would come in and delete the retarded argument that should have been over PM's. Further quoting people in sigs is stupid I wish there was a petition to make it stop.
10-17-2005, 07:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Falqon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The compression ratio increase sure can't hurt, did they both have cats?
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Yes they both had stock Civic cats on them.
The compression ratio increase sure can't hurt, did they both have cats?
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Yes they both had stock Civic cats on them.
10-18-2005, 10:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urnotfast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think i actually lost i.q. points by reading this thread.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's pretty sad, you had so few to spare.
That's pretty sad, you had so few to spare.
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diegoaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jeebus how much misinfo:
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95
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looks like i ALMOST got it right... those and the B16a4 are almost never heard of... who gets their swaps from europe anyway? i have yet to even see a B16A1 block stamp.
B16A1 is the 88-91 EURO 1.6i-VT motor. 150 HP.
B16A2 IS EURO OBD1 92-95
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looks like i ALMOST got it right... those and the B16a4 are almost never heard of... who gets their swaps from europe anyway? i have yet to even see a B16A1 block stamp.Last edited by 1988civicDX; 05-17-2016 at 06:53 PM. Reason: Add a word
05-17-2016, 08:18 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2
Wow, you just quoted and bumped a 10yr old thread, cuz you wanted to show a pic to some honda fans.
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