Be2-SPEK

hey peeps i opened this thread to get some professional help i got a b16a that i want to build up i heard from this one guy that i can do a itr conversion and make it a 1.8L thing is this will be my first engine build try. of course i got someboby to help me build it but i need help to know what is the best engine set up to get 200 or more hp im kind of a newbie at this so please i will take any advice into consideration i want to build a good engine that i can be able to use on street so im not trying to go all crazy i want to keep it as much oem as possible so let me know and please be as especific as you can i mean like wut kind of headbolts to use cams rods and pistons also i will be converting a cable tranny into a hydro so let me know about your experiences with that also thanks in advance for all the inputs ...............

93h2beg

sorry to tell u this but the lil 1.6 wont go to a 1.8 the itr and ctr block are the same, same as a gsr too. its taller than the b16. the only thing u could use is the crank... the stock rods on the b16 are hella short.
200hp on b16? u trying to do this n/a or turbo?
u would really be pushing a b16 to make 200 whp N/A. a tubro build is what i'd do. cheap-e ebay turbo kit, gets u all the piping and such then spend a few bucks and get a better turbo.

Be2-SPEK

im trying to go n/a on it i dont mind if i dont get the 200 mark but just want a good set up i want to use wat i got if anything i might just go after market after all im in no rush thanks for the info i really thought i could make it a 1.8 good to know thats not possible ill scratch that off my list oh well any thing else

phaphon

you can use a b17 crank and prolly go with itr pistons or p30 im not sure about the clearance and get some ctr cams im pretty that would be a good setup..some guy with a b17 crank was running high 13s with a b17 crank not sure what else he had but he had traction problem so it was fast...at sacramento race way

Be2-SPEK

yeah i heard about that too actually i did not know there was a b17 until i read somewhere here on this website

phaphon

yup i seen it in action and it was a beast

Red_Army

200whp isn't too hard. it isn't cheap but nothing radical. just alot of headwork and some big cams. but keeping it all in the OEM range would be pretty difficult.

be better off trying in the all motor section but be specific.

danielblushtein

yea dats true to get to 200whp with n/a, not much parts are going to be left oem.

chewyv

What are you restricted to in ca? I never been there.

Be2-SPEK

everything lol i dont know really but ok ill give in wut after market parts do i need or will it be better to get a b20 block with the b16 head like a lot of people have done

Be2-SPEK

bump

b20hatchek

what would you be willing to go with on the aftermarket spectrum?

Be2-SPEK

dont really know much on aftermarket parts thats wut im trying to find out money is not an issue i just want a decent build

b20hatchek

boost it

Jimster480

having traction problems doesnt make the car fast. It makes your tires shitty. I make 300+WHP on my setup and I hold traction on 195/65/14 Yokohama AS430's.

Doing a all motor build is pointless IMO, your not going to make power. Go turbo and you will be happy with it.

Be2-SPEK

haha im really leaning towards turbo now but i want to build the motor first ill probably go turbo later on

Jimster480

well dont build it for all motor, otherwise you will have to rebuild it for turbo after you realize that your making like 200HP out of 3k$

Be2-SPEK

yeah same thing my cousin told me damn im stumped

Be2-SPEK

bump


just thinking i might just do itr pistons and a built head with itr cams wut u guys think then maybe just chip the ecu and call it a day

b20hatchek

your not gonna make any real power, just boost it

phaphon

i never said he was fast cause he had no traction i said he was fast cause he had a b16 hitting 13. something with no traction so read b4 you try and bash on me

b20hatchek

and if you do decide to build it all motor or boost it, dont just chip it. get it tuned on hondata and itll last forever and you wont be one of the kids on here with the thread name "chrome ecu built b16 issues" do it right the first time period whatever you do

Jimster480

"He had traction problems, so it was fast"
that's exactly what u said.

B18C5-EH2

I'm knocking on 12's with a 100% bone stock internals B18C5 swap and it has been 100% reliable for the past NINE years I've owned it.

B18C5-EH2

BTW:

I doubt the OP's friend who can "make a B16A 1.8L" knows about this, but there was actually a custom piston kit that allowed the use of the larger [b]STOCK 1834cc B18B LS crank and rods in the B16A block. The kit included custom Arias pistons that basically raised the wrist pin location and rings/lands way up in the piston.

Click HERE to read about the Tech 43 Racing kit from back in 2004

I did a simple Google search and the first link that popped up was this Eagle B16a 1.8L stroker kit

Now would I personally stroke a B16A to 1.8L?

Hell no.

The R/S ratio would not be nearly as reliable as the good old B18C 1.8L block with it's taller block and longer rods.

If I were the OP I'd look into a 1.8L block swap and raise CR with some pistons, get some good cams, and a GOOD port job if budget allows.

Otherwise boost it and make more whp for less money than an N/A build (but not be as cool lol.)