b16a question
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b16a question
I know I asked it before. But here goes...I can't seem to find any answers to. HT answered some of my questions...If I have a b16a3 block could it be from a 1994 del sol? Original motor not swapped from a newer del sol? I heard that b16a2, b16a3, b16a4 might of came in 94-95 del sols in the U.S. Is that true? The b16a2 shortblock has no vin # in the front lower portion of the block. b16a2 were suppose to be 96 and up. Then how come this block has no vin #. I looked for any holes that might of be for the vin plate bolts...But there's none the I could see. So could it be a 94 b16a2 block? The head dated 94. I know heads can be swapped though and date confirmation can be wrong. Any help to these questions would be appreciated.
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12-31-2004, 09:16 AM
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Re: b16a question (civic2slo)
B16A3 USDM 94 DelSol VTEC. B16A (marked on the block) 99% JDM Look above the oil pan on the intake side of the motor for VIN plate or holes. I believe the block marking on a 99-00 Si is B16A2, correct this if it is wrong. I don't **** with EK much. 
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Re: b16a question (HondaFanatic708)
B16A3 came in 94&95 dohc del sol's and they don't have VIN numbers on them. Correct if I'm wrong but Honda didn't start putting VIN on tranny's til 96 and up. The b16A2 came in 96-97 dohc del sol's and 99-00 SI's.
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Re: b16a question (Lee_Delso)
lee you are correct. i have an a3 del sol and there isnt a stamped nor riveted vin on the tranny it was a sticker that peeled off after 9k miles...
12-31-2004, 08:48 PM
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Re: b16a question (delslow94)
I'm not talking about the trannys...I'm talking about the engine block...was there vin # on 96 and up del sol blocks? My original question was the block came from a 94 b16a sol but the engine code said b16a3...I'm just trying to find out if it is the original motor
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Re: b16a question (Lee_Delso)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lee_Delso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16A3 came in 94&95 dohc del sol's and they don't have VIN numbers on them. Correct if I'm wrong but Honda didn't start putting VIN on tranny's til 96 and up. The b16A2 came in 96-97 dohc del sol's and 99-00 SI's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
b16a2 is only in the 99-00 Si.
b16a2 is only in the 99-00 Si.
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Re: b16a question (The Pastor)
if the b16a2 is a 99-00 civic si engine. Then how come I can't find the vin tag? Isn't the vin tag located on the front bottom by the oil pan/block just left of the ac bracket? Could it be a euro/canadian engine? It's a b16a2 block with no rivet holes of any sorts. And no the block has not been welded or anything like that. Just trying to figure how this engine wound up in a 94 del sol. it's supposetly the original motor. Maybe a canadian made model?
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Re: b16a question (civic2slo)
You have the original engine in your car. The B16A3 never came in anything else but the 96-97 Del Sol. B16A1 was in the 94-95 Del Sol and The B16A2 only came in the 99-00 Si.
01-04-2005, 04:15 AM
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Re: b16a question (2000EM1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000EM1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
b16a2 is only in the 99-00 Si.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00 Red SiR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have the original engine in your car. The B16A3 never came in anything else but the 96-97 Del Sol. B16A1 was in the 94-95 Del Sol and The B16A2 only came in the 99-00 Si.
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Wrong too.
The B16A3 came stock in the 1993-1995 OBD1 Del Sol VTECs.
The B16A2 came in 1996 and 1997 Del Sol VTECs and the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
The B16A (with no suffix number) is a JDM block code that could be from 1989-up.
Why do people post misinfo so much?
b16a2 is only in the 99-00 Si.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00 Red SiR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You have the original engine in your car. The B16A3 never came in anything else but the 96-97 Del Sol. B16A1 was in the 94-95 Del Sol and The B16A2 only came in the 99-00 Si.
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Wrong too.
The B16A3 came stock in the 1993-1995 OBD1 Del Sol VTECs.
The B16A2 came in 1996 and 1997 Del Sol VTECs and the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
The B16A (with no suffix number) is a JDM block code that could be from 1989-up.
Why do people post misinfo so much?
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Re: b16a question (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The B16A3 came stock in the 1993-1995 OBD1 Del Sol VTECs.
The B16A2 came in 1996 and 1997 Del Sol VTECs and the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
The B16A (with no suffix number) is a JDM block code that could be from 1989-up.
Why do people post misinfo so much?</TD></TR></TABLE>.
Ok the b16a2 is a 96-97 and 99-00 block then how come I can't find the vin # plate? And no theres no holes or and welded holes...that another question. If there were no provisions for the vin plate wouldn't that be a obd 1 block?
The B16A3 came stock in the 1993-1995 OBD1 Del Sol VTECs.
The B16A2 came in 1996 and 1997 Del Sol VTECs and the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
The B16A (with no suffix number) is a JDM block code that could be from 1989-up.
Why do people post misinfo so much?</TD></TR></TABLE>.
Ok the b16a2 is a 96-97 and 99-00 block then how come I can't find the vin # plate? And no theres no holes or and welded holes...that another question. If there were no provisions for the vin plate wouldn't that be a obd 1 block?
01-04-2005, 06:47 AM
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Re: b16a question (civic2slo)
I own a B16A2 and a B18C5 currently.
EDIT:
I found a VIN plate on the bottom of the engine block. It is located (if standing at the front of the car) jjst above the oil pan and just to the left of the A/C bracket. It is hardly visible when the car is on the ground, so you really have to look for it.
If the VIN plate is missing and you cannot run a VIN status to determine the year
, there is still a way to prove what year the engine is though.
On the cylinder head there is a year stamped on it. If you look at the cylinder #4 (cylinder closest to the passenger side of the car) header primary you'll see the stamp. It's a circle with the year on it.
Example:
My 1998 B18C5 has a circle with 9/8 in it. My B18C5 is in fact, a 1998. the only slightly misleading thing is that sometimes the head was stamped a year before the engine was actually assembled and installed in the car at the factory.
Example:
A 1999 Civic Si B16A2 could actually say 9/8 on the stamp if the head was cast in late 1998 even though the engine/car would be a 1999.
But this is the best way to determine the year of a B series engine IMO.
EDIT:
I found a VIN plate on the bottom of the engine block. It is located (if standing at the front of the car) jjst above the oil pan and just to the left of the A/C bracket. It is hardly visible when the car is on the ground, so you really have to look for it.
If the VIN plate is missing and you cannot run a VIN status to determine the year
, there is still a way to prove what year the engine is though.
On the cylinder head there is a year stamped on it. If you look at the cylinder #4 (cylinder closest to the passenger side of the car) header primary you'll see the stamp. It's a circle with the year on it.
Example:
My 1998 B18C5 has a circle with 9/8 in it. My B18C5 is in fact, a 1998. the only slightly misleading thing is that sometimes the head was stamped a year before the engine was actually assembled and installed in the car at the factory.
Example:
A 1999 Civic Si B16A2 could actually say 9/8 on the stamp if the head was cast in late 1998 even though the engine/car would be a 1999.
But this is the best way to determine the year of a B series engine IMO.
01-04-2005, 07:02 AM
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Re: b16a question (turbofienD 04)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbofienD 04 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.hondaswap.com/forum...29825</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wrong still.
Where's the 1996-1997 Del Sol VTEC engine?
That's right, it's a B16A2, which they list only for the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
Wrong still.
Where's the 1996-1997 Del Sol VTEC engine?
That's right, it's a B16A2, which they list only for the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
01-04-2005, 07:09 AM
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Re: b16a question (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wrong too.
The B16A3 came stock in the 1993-1995 OBD1 Del Sol VTECs.
The B16A2 came in 1996 and 1997 Del Sol VTECs and the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
The B16A (with no suffix number) is a JDM block code that could be from 1989-up.
Why do people post misinfo so much?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks Tom, I guess I posted the wrong info because It was from a Honda/Acura book that i had here and I was too tired to see the disclaimer at the bottom of the page when I posted:
"Neither SCC, HPBooks nor the operators of http:hybrid.honda-perf.org accept responsibility for the use of this information. Confirming details is up to whomever is undertaking a project".
Nice.......thanks for coming out eh.....
You'd think that if they write the book they'd at least attempt to check out the accuracy of the information in it.
Wrong too.
The B16A3 came stock in the 1993-1995 OBD1 Del Sol VTECs.
The B16A2 came in 1996 and 1997 Del Sol VTECs and the 99-00 Civic Si coupe.
The B16A (with no suffix number) is a JDM block code that could be from 1989-up.
Why do people post misinfo so much?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks Tom, I guess I posted the wrong info because It was from a Honda/Acura book that i had here and I was too tired to see the disclaimer at the bottom of the page when I posted:
"Neither SCC, HPBooks nor the operators of http:hybrid.honda-perf.org accept responsibility for the use of this information. Confirming details is up to whomever is undertaking a project".
Nice.......thanks for coming out eh.....
You'd think that if they write the book they'd at least attempt to check out the accuracy of the information in it.
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Re: b16a question (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I own a B16A2 and a B18C5 currently.
I'll go look at my B18C5 right now and look for a VIN, but to my knowledge the VIN is found on the TRANNY, and not the engine block.
***EDIT***
Yes I was correct.
There is a way to prove what year the engine is though.
On the cylinder head there is a year stamped on it. If you look at the cylinder #4 (cylinder closest to the passenger side of the car) header primary you'll see the stamp. It's a circle with the year on it.
Example:
My 1998 B18C5 has a circle with 9/8 in it. My B18C5 is in fact, a 1998. the only slightly misleading thing is that sometimes the head was stamped a year before the engine was actually assembled and installed in the car at the factory.
Example:
A 1999 Civic Si B16A2 could actually say 9/8 on the stamp if the head was cast in late 1998 even though the engine/car would be a 1999.
But this is the best way to determine the year of a B series engine IMO.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
the head that was taken off the block was dated 94 and the del sol is a 94. thats why I'm so curious about the block being a b16a2 with no vin plate. And on 96 and up engines there is a vin pate on the engine block just like the tranny.
my thing is that there is no provision for the vin plate. or any evidence of it being a obd 2 block. like crank angle sensor or vin plate. I also heard (rumor) that 94-97 del sols did in fact come with b16 a2's/a3's even the rare a4's. I cannot confirm the rumor though.
I'll go look at my B18C5 right now and look for a VIN, but to my knowledge the VIN is found on the TRANNY, and not the engine block.
***EDIT***
Yes I was correct.
There is a way to prove what year the engine is though.
On the cylinder head there is a year stamped on it. If you look at the cylinder #4 (cylinder closest to the passenger side of the car) header primary you'll see the stamp. It's a circle with the year on it.
Example:
My 1998 B18C5 has a circle with 9/8 in it. My B18C5 is in fact, a 1998. the only slightly misleading thing is that sometimes the head was stamped a year before the engine was actually assembled and installed in the car at the factory.
Example:
A 1999 Civic Si B16A2 could actually say 9/8 on the stamp if the head was cast in late 1998 even though the engine/car would be a 1999.
But this is the best way to determine the year of a B series engine IMO.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
the head that was taken off the block was dated 94 and the del sol is a 94. thats why I'm so curious about the block being a b16a2 with no vin plate. And on 96 and up engines there is a vin pate on the engine block just like the tranny.
my thing is that there is no provision for the vin plate. or any evidence of it being a obd 2 block. like crank angle sensor or vin plate. I also heard (rumor) that 94-97 del sols did in fact come with b16 a2's/a3's even the rare a4's. I cannot confirm the rumor though.
01-05-2005, 03:49 AM
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Re: b16a question (civic2slo)
After looking closer on my engine...
Wait a minute. The VIN plate on the block is on the towards the bottom of the oil pan, ins't it? We have a brand new B18C5 longblock sitting in the floor here, and it *looks* like it has the holes for rivets for a VIN plate on the front near the oil pan. I guess i'll double check my engine again - I must have missed it.
The B16A3 is most certainly the OBD1 engine, but if that B16A2 truly has no provisions for a VIN plate and the head says 1994 (provided it's not been swapped) then you would have the first and only pre-1996 B16A2 I've ever heard of.
Wait a minute. The VIN plate on the block is on the towards the bottom of the oil pan, ins't it? We have a brand new B18C5 longblock sitting in the floor here, and it *looks* like it has the holes for rivets for a VIN plate on the front near the oil pan. I guess i'll double check my engine again - I must have missed it.
The B16A3 is most certainly the OBD1 engine, but if that B16A2 truly has no provisions for a VIN plate and the head says 1994 (provided it's not been swapped) then you would have the first and only pre-1996 B16A2 I've ever heard of.
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Re: b16a question (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After looking closer on my engine...
Wait a minute. The VIN plate on the block is on the towards the bottom of the oil pan, ins't it? We have a brand new B18C5 longblock sitting in the floor here, and it *looks* like it has the holes for rivets for a VIN plate on the front near the oil pan. I guess i'll double check my engine again - I must have missed it.
The B16A3 is most certainly the OBD1 engine, but if that B16A2 truly has no provisions for a VIN plate and the head says 1994 (provided it's not been swapped) then you would have the first and only pre-1996 B16A2 I've ever heard of.</TD></TR></TABLE>
heres some pic of the short block
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Modified by civic2slo at 3:23 AM 1/6/2005
Wait a minute. The VIN plate on the block is on the towards the bottom of the oil pan, ins't it? We have a brand new B18C5 longblock sitting in the floor here, and it *looks* like it has the holes for rivets for a VIN plate on the front near the oil pan. I guess i'll double check my engine again - I must have missed it.
The B16A3 is most certainly the OBD1 engine, but if that B16A2 truly has no provisions for a VIN plate and the head says 1994 (provided it's not been swapped) then you would have the first and only pre-1996 B16A2 I've ever heard of.</TD></TR></TABLE>
heres some pic of the short block
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Modified by civic2slo at 3:23 AM 1/6/2005
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Re: b16a question (civic2slo)
b16a2 are obd2, any car produced 96 or newer has obd2.
What I dont get is I thought the a2 a3 meant 2nd generation and third generation, and the b16a no number which I have, is 1st gen obd1 jdm :shrugs:
edit: If so, than how come a3's were produced on 93-? del sols? Are a3's ONLY found in slo's?
What I dont get is I thought the a2 a3 meant 2nd generation and third generation, and the b16a no number which I have, is 1st gen obd1 jdm :shrugs:
edit: If so, than how come a3's were produced on 93-? del sols? Are a3's ONLY found in slo's?
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wow this is the most confusing **** i ever heard and seen, I say its not the original, someone swapped it i guess, maybe its stolen and they shaved the vin numbers off or swapped parts where the vin number would be at. dont know guessing.
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Re: b16a question (EGfosho)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGfosho »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow this is the most confusing **** i ever heard and seen, I say its not the original, someone swapped it i guess, maybe its stolen and they shaved the vin numbers off or swapped parts where the vin number would be at. dont know guessing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shaved or stolen I don't think thats the case...obd 2 swapped back to a odb1 yes thats possible ...But my thing is that if it's a obd 2 then there should be a vin plate or if thats missing then there should be 2 holes where the vin plate was attached to. But there's no holes for the vin plate...thats my dilema...Late production obd1?
Or even a honda warranty engine?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTiVTo8000rpm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16a2 are obd2, any car produced 96 or newer has obd2.
What I dont get is I thought the a2 a3 meant 2nd generation and third generation, and the b16a no number which I have, is 1st gen obd1 jdm :shrugs:
found in slo's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well most jdm engines will not have the the number after the letter.
Example: B16A (jdm, possible 1st or 2nd gen by looking how the engine parts
that are on it)
B16A2 (usdm obd2 96-97 del sol and 99-00 civic si)
B16A3 (usdm obd1 del sol)
(if the head is still with the block check the date code on it. Most likely that the year on the engine...Unless someone did a head swap ).
Now why would honda go from B16A3 (94-95) to B16A2 (96-97 and 99-00). The block numbering is all screwed going by generation of b16a. It should of been progressive like a2 then a3 and possibly a4 in the block sequence. I still think that there were b16a2's and b16a3's that came in the 94-95 del sol.
This is from summit racing page:
B16A2/A3
Model: 1992-95 Civic Vti, 1992-95 Civic Si-R, 1993-95 del Sol VTEC
Specs.: 1595cc, 16 valve SOHC VTEC, 10.4:1 compression
Power: 160 bhp @ 7,600 rpm
Torque: 111 ft.-lbs. @ 7,000 rpm
Redline: 8,200 rpm
B16A4
Model: 1996-2001 Civic Si-RII
Specs.: 1595cc, 16 valve DOHC VTEC, 10.4:1 compression
Power: 170 bhp @ 7,800 rpm
Torque: 16Nm @ 7,300 rpm
Redline: 8,200 rpm
So anyone can tell me if this a a real B16A2 block that I have with no vin plate holes? or did someone stamp the 2?
Modified by civic2slo at 5:05 AM 1/8/2005
Shaved or stolen I don't think thats the case...obd 2 swapped back to a odb1 yes thats possible ...But my thing is that if it's a obd 2 then there should be a vin plate or if thats missing then there should be 2 holes where the vin plate was attached to. But there's no holes for the vin plate...thats my dilema...Late production obd1?
Or even a honda warranty engine?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTiVTo8000rpm »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16a2 are obd2, any car produced 96 or newer has obd2.
What I dont get is I thought the a2 a3 meant 2nd generation and third generation, and the b16a no number which I have, is 1st gen obd1 jdm :shrugs:
found in slo's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well most jdm engines will not have the the number after the letter.
Example: B16A (jdm, possible 1st or 2nd gen by looking how the engine parts
that are on it)
B16A2 (usdm obd2 96-97 del sol and 99-00 civic si)
B16A3 (usdm obd1 del sol)
(if the head is still with the block check the date code on it. Most likely that the year on the engine...Unless someone did a head swap ).
Now why would honda go from B16A3 (94-95) to B16A2 (96-97 and 99-00). The block numbering is all screwed going by generation of b16a. It should of been progressive like a2 then a3 and possibly a4 in the block sequence. I still think that there were b16a2's and b16a3's that came in the 94-95 del sol.
This is from summit racing page:
B16A2/A3
Model: 1992-95 Civic Vti, 1992-95 Civic Si-R, 1993-95 del Sol VTEC
Specs.: 1595cc, 16 valve SOHC VTEC, 10.4:1 compression
Power: 160 bhp @ 7,600 rpm
Torque: 111 ft.-lbs. @ 7,000 rpm
Redline: 8,200 rpm
B16A4
Model: 1996-2001 Civic Si-RII
Specs.: 1595cc, 16 valve DOHC VTEC, 10.4:1 compression
Power: 170 bhp @ 7,800 rpm
Torque: 16Nm @ 7,300 rpm
Redline: 8,200 rpm
So anyone can tell me if this a a real B16A2 block that I have with no vin plate holes? or did someone stamp the 2?
Modified by civic2slo at 5:05 AM 1/8/2005
01-10-2005, 05:22 AM
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Re: b16a question (civic2slo)
The Summit page is just dead wrong.
They bascially leave the B16A (no suffix) completely out of the equation, and they lump B16A3 and B16A2 in with the JDM engines and leave out the fact that even a 1992 JDM B16A has 10.4:1CR as opposed to the USDM engines' 10.2:1CR.
Also I have always known the B16A4 to be a Euro-only engine.
They bascially leave the B16A (no suffix) completely out of the equation, and they lump B16A3 and B16A2 in with the JDM engines and leave out the fact that even a 1992 JDM B16A has 10.4:1CR as opposed to the USDM engines' 10.2:1CR.
Also I have always known the B16A4 to be a Euro-only engine.
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Re: b16a question (B18C5-EH2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C5-EH2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Summit page is just dead wrong.
They bascially leave the B16A (no suffix) completely out of the equation, and they lump B16A3 and B16A2 in with the JDM engines and leave out the fact that even a 1992 JDM B16A has 10.4:1CR as opposed to the USDM engines' 10.2:1CR.
Also I have always known the B16A4 to be a Euro-only engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So by saying euro... Could this be a euro b16a2? or what gives, if its a usdm b16a2 with no vin plate holes. And does the pic proves it a B16A2 with no vin plate holes or someone just stamped a 2 at the end of the B16A?
They bascially leave the B16A (no suffix) completely out of the equation, and they lump B16A3 and B16A2 in with the JDM engines and leave out the fact that even a 1992 JDM B16A has 10.4:1CR as opposed to the USDM engines' 10.2:1CR.
Also I have always known the B16A4 to be a Euro-only engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So by saying euro... Could this be a euro b16a2? or what gives, if its a usdm b16a2 with no vin plate holes. And does the pic proves it a B16A2 with no vin plate holes or someone just stamped a 2 at the end of the B16A?
