Skipphag da Devoura

i have a '92 civ vx that had about a zillion miles on it. so i bought a B16A from japan. well, most of it fit just right. however, the tranny-side lower front motor mount bracket-thing (i.e. not the mount itself) doesn't fit. and nobody seems to have them. 1) does anyone know where i might be able to get one? 2) can i fab something that will work?

also, the shift stabilizer is on the wrong side of the linkage. on the d15z1, it was on the passenger side, and about 4" closer. on the b16a, it's on the driver's side. 1) is there any way around this dilemma, or do i need to get a new stabilizer? 2) i've mocked up a bracket, but wasn't sure if it will mess anything up with the shifting.

any help at all would be greatly appreciated.

p.s. brandon, i have it in the car, mostly. almost done!!!!!!! woot!

crazyguy

do u know what year or generation is your jdm b16a swap and is it a complete swap comes with everything? i have a jdm b16a swap in my eg too.first of all u will need new mounts.u need 94 up integra shift linkage,axles and see if there is a T bracket at the back of your JDM engine block,if not.u will need one from 94 up integra.does your swap comes with ecu?
however,there is a tricky part.u will need the usdm engine harness or u have to do some wire extension yourself cause the plugs on jdm b16a is totally opposite to usdm.i did the wire extension myself.here is pic of it.u see the driver side firewall where there are some colorful wires..thats it and u will need the integra LS throttle cable..and u can ask me any quesion,i will be happy to give u some ideas.

the pic below is how it looks like when it is done, took me 17 hours in 2 days to pull out old motor and swap in the b16a and 3 hours everyday after work for 5 days to put every little things back on.
my jdm swap is very complete, even comes with radiator hoses uncut, but u will need hose clamps in order to fit onto d series radiator.and also the exhaust down pipe will not fit onto the stock d series cat.u will have the get the flange rewelded.
good luck





Modified by crazyguy at 12:04 PM 8/22/2007


Modified by crazyguy at 12:06 PM 8/22/2007


Modified by crazyguy at 12:07 PM 8/22/2007

Skipphag da Devoura

the engine is an obd1
it was a complete swap. (from street imports, they cut hoses that went from one part of the engine to another - totally unnecessary for removal. bah)
my best friends grandpa made a bracket for my throttle, so didn't hafta replace it.
and brien is an electrically inclined fella, so he rewired my vx harness, much the way you did (cause the harness that S.I. sent was cut to crap)
got the right axles, and the shifter linked right up, its the stabilizer that doesn't mesh.
how did you connect the lower-front tranny-side mount? if i use the d15's, then the long y-shaped bracket with the bolt-post is too long, and the hole pattern doesn't line-up.

thanks for the help
what year is your car?

crazyguy

i have a eg dx hatch back
for the lower tranny mount.i use my old d series bracket..the 3 bolts will bolt on and the rubber bushing mount with 2 screws onto the under body fame will line up too.and my is obd1 too

soulexistence

Yeah, the mount just doesnt line up in front. i think maybe two out of three do. we're gonna try it with those two. other option is to fab a bracket, but we'll see.

yeah, i did the wiring. had a couple pull out, but its all done. no trubbs there. the only part we have left to worry on is the shift stabilizer. i say put a bracket on the tranny and that ought to hold it. still say that's the best way at this point..

its almost done mano.. lets just finish her up..

crazyguy

bro i dont understand the shift stabilizer u are talking about?cause my is direct bolt on.no midification oor bracket needed.

soulexistence

From the shifter under the car there are two bars. one goes from the actual shifter to the tranny linkage, the other goes from the plate around the shifter to a bolt set into the side of the engine. On the VX stock engine they were side by side. On the b16a, the mount point for it is about 4" toward the front, still on the back of the engine. just a stabilizer.

i was going to put a piece of flatbar from one of the mount points for the rear engine mount straight down and attach the stabilizer bar there.

skipphag wants a second opinion.

we can post pics tomorrow if needed.

Skipphag da Devoura

soul existence has a 92 vx w/ flowmaster and cold air, replaced his bumpers, skirts and mirrors, and has fenders.
my 92 vx has a b16a in it, and battle damage on the d-s front fender and rear quarter.
he's pretty. i'll be fast.
anyway, he's my best friend. i still believe that body work does not make one an expert on engines. so i like second opinions .




Modified by Skipphag da Devoura at 9:53 AM 8/25/2007

fast2camciv

y0 skipp,
i just grabbed a couple links from the FAQ to see if they might help you with the problems your having...if you can post pics of things you have questions with and people might have better answers for ya...hope this helps, good luck mang...
Dietz.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878010
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=131949
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...p.php

crazyguy

u do u know u will need to use a dc2 or dc4 integra shift linkages,right ?

fast2camciv

i think thats one of the problems they are having, they are trying to use the stock eg linkage.

i dont think the linkage came with the swap he bought.

instrument

yeah, stock linkage is a no go.
and the mount question makes no sense to me
have you tried your stock mounts?

fast2camciv

he said something to me about the mounting holes on the tranny not being the same pattern as his d series mount, and then the lower tourque mount not lining up right to the frame....im not sure cause i havent seen it for myself....

i do have my old tranny mount from my dc2 (im running solid mounts now) so ill give him that and see if works better, but yea i thought the tq mounts were the same also.

Skipphag da Devoura

the tranny side torque bracket was an issue. the 92 civ vx has a D15-Z1 stock, and so this torque bracket has a different hole pattern. i had to get the torque bracket off of a 95 integra to fit. my solid motor mounts were sent with the jdm b16a, and the engine side mount did not fit - it was a 3-bolt and the engine requires a 2-bolt. so i didn't feel completely safe leaving the torque brackets off.

i have a shift linkage coming monday, one of fast2camciv's people had one he wasn't using.

sooooo, woot!
i be drivin' a tuzedae er wenzdae!!!!
woot!

Skipphag da Devoura

okay, looks like thursday now

still, woot!

soulexistence

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dinna say i wassa expert. and we're that much closer to bein done! Muahaha!

bracket... CHECK!!
shift linkage... TOMORROW!!
two broken wires... TOMORROW!!
start... MAYBE!!

Skipphag da Devoura

dinna say you say you 'spert... just sometimes pretend to be one.... :}

an a axles need to be innit.

pbth-pbth!!!!

digitalcongo

i have the oem front tranny torque mounts off a obd1 jdm b16 swap if you are interested

i would be interested in the stock d15z1 vx motor...

Skipphag da Devoura

motor, tranny, linkage, brackets.... s'all there 'cept distributor, make offer, we'll haggle.

i found the tranny torque bracket at the junkers and he gave it to me for like $10, or something.

and today i got the linkage off an integra, so, woot, woot.
woot



Modified by Skipphag da Devoura at 12:15 PM 9/20/2007

Skipphag da Devoura

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Skipphag da Devoura

got the linkage in, got the torque bracket in.
still having trouble getting the stupid rubber exhaust shackles off.
stupid rubber shackles!

woot!
be running tomorrow morning for sure! maybe!

still waiting to hear an offer on the d15z1

it has 230k miles

Skipphag da Devoura

okay, ran into another snaggle...

the jdm wiring harness believed that the alternator connection to the fuse box was on the driver's side. silly them! it's on the passenger side. so 4 feet of 8ga later...

everything is connected. the car sits on it's own wheels. has the shiny new p30 brain...

i put the key in the ignition and it decries foul! the door is open. so i have power to the cab. the lights come on, the windshield wipers work, and the blinkers function... haven't checked the stereo...

but, when i turn the key....
all i hear is a click.
no fuel pump sound. no activity from the starter.
when i parked the car, everything worked with the d15.
called fast2camciv and he says "main relay"
not questioning him. i just have no idea what this "main relay" is, or where to get one. am i on another goose chase for a part that no one carries? is this oem only, or junkyard bait only? if i find one in the junkyard, does it have to be a B-series relay? and if i find one in the yard, is there any way to test it to see if it's any better than the one i have? is there any way to test the one i have, to see if it's viable? and if it does require a different relay for the B-series as opposed to the D-series, is that maybe my problem to begin with?


Modified by Skipphag da Devoura at 1:08 PM 9/25/2007

soulexistence

Update: Skippy bought the relay today. He called me and told me that it was in his hand, but he hadn't put it in yet.

Stupid main relay.

Skipphag da Devoura

update

main relay in

still no fuel pump sounds, still no starter jump

some wire, some where, does not have a solid connection

i am beginning to hear the acme-manufacturing theme from looney toons as i work on this car....

Skipphag da Devoura

i have broken weak!
car still has no power to fuel pump, or starter. went thru and soldered everything.
now taking it to fast2camciv, tomorrow
he'll make it run
:'( i want my car to go:'(
fast2camciv says it'll take him a weekend