OneSickJDMBB6

My Friend Just Recently told me forced induction on an SOHC stressed out the engine, especially since it has only one cam. He says that the turbo will last you only about 30K, and after that, you'll need to rebuild the engine. He thinks that swapping the SOHC D16Y5 for a DOHC USDM B16A is the better route to go, since the complete swap only costs $3.5K including smog stuff and parts and labor. Also, he said that the Engine is an NA, so the car will last longer, since it's not a turbo.

Right now, I'm thinking about taking his word for it and i'm thinking about swapping out the engine, but I want to turbo the D16Y5 at the same time. Any suggestions for all of you Honda Fanatics out there? Is it cheaper to go the Turbo Route and Turbo the D16Y5 VTEC-E or Swap out the engine for a Dual Cam B16A? And will the Turbo really die out on me at 30K miles? I need to keep the car 'street legal' haha. Thanks guys.

PnkRokCountryboy

IMO i would swap for the B16.. just because the difference between the 2 motors is pretty signifigant..but if you built up your D16 it could make some nice power..and as for the $ for the swap i would do it your self if you can find someone who knows what theyre doing to help you out

OneSickJDMBB6

yeah, from what i've heard, turbocharging the D16Y5 will beat a stock Si

Coppertop

Ya im in the same boat with this guy, brand new honda owner, but if i took the time to rebuild the B16, would it be worth it to goahead and turbo it (i've sorta got the turboitus).

OneSickJDMBB6

but how long do u think the turbo on the D16Y5 will last if i drive it normally?

PnkRokCountryboy

It should last, i mean its juts how you treat it.. you cant really ever say how long it will last...but its a honda motor lol itll last..so do you think you want to swap or stay with D-series?

8krdline

hoenstly I'd get the b16. But if you're on a budget get the sohc, parts and motors can be replaced dirt cheap.

chinkest_raver

well first. theres tons of threads on this topic, but second of all! anything you do to your car is NOTHING without fine tuning!

B16: can give you OK power, but remember to get a SUPER good alarm, alot of ppl looking for free motors these days!

D16: turboed you, you must and DEFINATELY TUNE the thing. Anything that involves dramatic increase in power will need tuning! Or it wont last.

If you are gonna go rebuild (on either the B16 or the D16), remember a full rebuild (bottom to top) it will still only last you about 40K or up to 60K at most with no abuse to the motor. I have experienced alot of friends who have gone that route and blew the motor, even with out abuse.

YOU, yourself must ask yourself what you want with your car! Speed or power?

power: go for B16

both: go for D16 turbo! (will defenitely kill any b16 swaps, but will need tuning! A MUST)

here is my setup that I am looking for, and gonna take alot of time and money.

PM me if you need help!

chinkest_raver

sorry decided not to post my set up..

OneSickJDMBB6

gaaaayyyyyy your not telling me ur setup....lol. swapping the engine out for a B16A is cheaper isn't it? and they make quite more parts for a B16A than a D16Y5, plus the D16Y5 tranny sucks *** so that'll cost more money if i go the turbo route than to swap out the engine altogether. And knowing me, I'd probably blow out the engine if i were to turbo it...haha

OneSickJDMBB6

I think imma swap out the engine for the B16A as soon as I have the cash...it'll take about a few months

Maness

Build the motor + turbo + good tune = reliability, and I would imagine a bit cheaper than 3.5k. Oh, and more power


But I don't have a turbo, so I honestly don't know what I am talking about.

racerpat94

just because an engine is turbocharged doesent mean it will give out when the odometer hits 30k. a turbo engine can last for years or minutes depending on how well you build it, how well you tune it, how much you boost it, how hard you drive it, etc etc. try searching. you can find tons of people that swear by NA and tons that are all for FI.

DohctorVtec

Ok, seriously yeah turboing the d16..ofcourse it will beat a <U>STOCK</U> B16...if you build the B16 you will find that you can bring so much power out of them or any B-series for that fact because the mod's are never ending for them IMO go wit hthe B16 build it up all motor ( thats what I have with mine ITR internals) or turbo it and no D16 will beat you...I have a friend with a Greddy Turbo on his D16 and hes only puting 188 to the wheels with my engine Im puting about 230 at the wheels so your choice but IMO screw the d16 and go for the b16

Maness

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True, and you should think about this before hand. Are you going to just put in 3.5k now, or will you be willing to spend a lot more cash later as well?

3.5k to me would already be pushing it, but I'm one of those guys who has a hard time spending more on something that it is worth, ya know?

d.n.d.

iTrader: (5)

B16 muuuch more reliable ur friend is right...itll eventually die those D series motors arent made for any kinda forced induction theyre Honda's economy lineup...so smarter to go with a B series

OneSickJDMBB6

yeah, i'm not just gonna spend $3.5K for the swap lol. of course im going to put some more money into the car to build up the engine. Just as soon as I get the 3.5 for the swap lol. I only make $600 a month after tax and i'm 17 shiet..

OneSickJDMBB6

So everyone's saying that I should just swap out the D16 for a B16A rite? Cuz that's what I'm planning on doing haha. And if i Turbo'd the D16 tho, it's gonna be too much trouble to install the turbo and tune it perfectly.

OneSickJDMBB6

besides how much does it cost est. for a turbo set-up on the D16Y5?

cuin9sec

turbo...

OneSickJDMBB6

haha

rusted_nailz

with 2.5 k u can build up the d series, so it can withstand more boost then 7 (daily) and then peice together a good turbo kit for 1k. then u can smoke any built 3.5k worth b16's(including swap, etc.etc) any day and besides if u blow it, its like what 400$ to buy a used complete d series motor? i would of turbo'd mine, but i got a good price for my bros ls/vtec.. anyways gee gee

papito_85

b16+turbo

OneSickJDMBB6

lol..now i'm in the middle...

pearl

iTrader: (1)

my 1600 dollar, pieced together, turbo kit for my single cam non-vtec beats up on gsr's. running a fmu/missing link on 7 pounds. I beat the **** out of it daily and abuse it. its been over 15k, and ive driven it everyday to school, out of state, not one problem

sohc turbo if you money is tight.
if its not, swap it out, but youll spend more money and be slower.