B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny
08-16-2007, 09:59 AM
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B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny
Im looking into getting rid of the b16 and buying a gsr. I have both a gsr tranny and a b16 tranny right now. B16 is just sitting around. But i need to know what would go better with a gsr. a b16 or a gsr tranny. Ive heard the gsr trannys have slightly longer gearing but also heard the are stronger? i dunno about that but i would like to know some of your input
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (EGLUVN)
The B16A is better for an all motor application due to closer, shorter gearing. The gearing is freaking awesome. The GSR has a stronger diff. If you're putting down stock or close to stock power, I wouldnt worry about it.
Give me the B16 trans. I've been looking for one to put on my B18C1.
Give me the B16 trans. I've been looking for one to put on my B18C1.
08-16-2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (B serious)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B serious »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The B16A is better for an all motor application due to closer, shorter gearing. The gearing is freaking awesome. The GSR has a stronger diff. If you're putting down stock or close to stock power, I wouldnt worry about it.
Give me the B16 trans. I've been looking for one to put on my B18C1. </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you have proof that the GSR diff is stronger?
Give me the B16 trans. I've been looking for one to put on my B18C1.
</TD></TR></TABLE>do you have proof that the GSR diff is stronger?
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
do you have proof that the GSR diff is stronger?</TD></TR></TABLE>
b16 tranny's are notorious for falling apart.
do you have proof that the GSR diff is stronger?</TD></TR></TABLE>
b16 tranny's are notorious for falling apart.
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (ek forever guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
b16 tranny's are notorious for falling apart. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So no actual research, i see
b16 tranny's are notorious for falling apart.
</TD></TR></TABLE>So no actual research, i see
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So no actual research, i see</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope, just 3 friends with em1's that have throwout bearing issues and two of them have a 1st gear going out.
All under 70k.
So no actual research, i see</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nope, just 3 friends with em1's that have throwout bearing issues and two of them have a 1st gear going out.
All under 70k.
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
do you have proof that the GSR diff is stronger?</TD></TR></TABLE>
there was some huge transmission post somewhere. I read the GSR diff was stronger. I dont remember where I saw it. Will post it up if i find it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nope, just 3 friends with em1's that have throwout bearing issues and two of them have a 1st gear going out.
All under 70k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never had problems with my JDM B16A trans (when i had my JDM B16 lol). I loved it. Drove the car real hard. I mean i didnt really launch it much or anything. I road raced the hell out of it, though. Shifted smooth as butter. Some people say they've had problems.....oh well.
do you have proof that the GSR diff is stronger?</TD></TR></TABLE>
there was some huge transmission post somewhere. I read the GSR diff was stronger. I dont remember where I saw it. Will post it up if i find it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Nope, just 3 friends with em1's that have throwout bearing issues and two of them have a 1st gear going out.
All under 70k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never had problems with my JDM B16A trans (when i had my JDM B16 lol). I loved it. Drove the car real hard. I mean i didnt really launch it much or anything. I road raced the hell out of it, though. Shifted smooth as butter. Some people say they've had problems.....oh well.
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EM1 drivers are notorious for poor tranny care</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is also true.
but having been around for a few years, I've seen exponentialy more "b16" related tranny issues. Even in throwout bearings, synchros and all.
It IS a motor that has to be revved to make power, so It would be tough to make a scientific diagnosis that's accurate. We'd have to poll thousands of b16 owners and have too many constants.
We'd have to tear a b16 tranny down to really see if any parts are insufficient.
This is also true.
but having been around for a few years, I've seen exponentialy more "b16" related tranny issues. Even in throwout bearings, synchros and all.
It IS a motor that has to be revved to make power, so It would be tough to make a scientific diagnosis that's accurate. We'd have to poll thousands of b16 owners and have too many constants.
We'd have to tear a b16 tranny down to really see if any parts are insufficient.
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EM1 drivers are notorious for poor tranny care</TD></TR></TABLE>
and your notorious for saying that GSR's are better. if you had a b16 tranny you would be on the other side of the bridge
and your notorious for saying that GSR's are better. if you had a b16 tranny you would be on the other side of the bridge
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (nix94delsol)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nix94delsol »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and your notorious for saying that GSR's are better. if you had a b16 tranny you would be on the other side of the bridge</TD></TR></TABLE>
just in the gearing in regards to the LS
i have had both trannys apart and IMHO the type of bearings used in the GSR hydro was not as good as a cable B16 LSD tranny
and your notorious for saying that GSR's are better. if you had a b16 tranny you would be on the other side of the bridge</TD></TR></TABLE>
just in the gearing in regards to the LS
i have had both trannys apart and IMHO the type of bearings used in the GSR hydro was not as good as a cable B16 LSD tranny
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (Lscivic1999)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lscivic1999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 tranny most of the time grind in 3rd gear at high RPM...!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear that a lot. And with hearing it so often there has to be an issue with the synchros or something.
blah, just get an ITR tranny and call it a day
I hear that a lot. And with hearing it so often there has to be an issue with the synchros or something.
blah, just get an ITR tranny and call it a day
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (ek forever guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I hear that a lot. And with hearing it so often there has to be an issue with the synchros or something.
blah, just get an ITR tranny and call it a day</TD></TR></TABLE>
they are made with the same Synchros they are all brass
I hear that a lot. And with hearing it so often there has to be an issue with the synchros or something.
blah, just get an ITR tranny and call it a day
</TD></TR></TABLE>they are made with the same Synchros they are all brass
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
they are made with the same Synchros they are all brass</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, then I'm wrong.
they are made with the same Synchros they are all brass</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, then I'm wrong.
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (ek forever guy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I hear that a lot. And with hearing it so often there has to be an issue with the synchros or something.
blah, just get an ITR tranny and call it a day</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeapp..get an ITR tranny and call it a day....i had two b16 tranny this year the first one was under 60k and it use to scratch like a moth@@ fucc@@ at 3rd gear in high RPM range...now the one i have now is doing the same thing in 3rd gear at high RPM with only 70k plus miles on it....and couple of friends had the same issue..!!..so i guess ITR is the way to go..!!.. LSD TOO..!!!
I hear that a lot. And with hearing it so often there has to be an issue with the synchros or something.
blah, just get an ITR tranny and call it a day
</TD></TR></TABLE>yeapp..get an ITR tranny and call it a day....i had two b16 tranny this year the first one was under 60k and it use to scratch like a moth@@ fucc@@ at 3rd gear in high RPM range...now the one i have now is doing the same thing in 3rd gear at high RPM with only 70k plus miles on it....and couple of friends had the same issue..!!..so i guess ITR is the way to go..!!.. LSD TOO..!!!
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (Lscivic1999)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lscivic1999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 tranny most of the time grind in 3rd gear at high RPM...!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's called the Honda third gear grind for a reason: It happens in all Honda trannies, all the time. Either transmission will fall apart if you shift like an ******* all the time.
Why are you wondering which you should choose? Put the old B16 tranny on your car, and run it until it explodes (metaphorically), and all the while just rebuild your GSR (one meant to be used with the motor) until it's practically brand new, then slap the bitch on there. You could even get an LSD in that time and put it on.
Or you can do it the other way around if you want even shorter gearing. My $.02
That's called the Honda third gear grind for a reason: It happens in all Honda trannies, all the time. Either transmission will fall apart if you shift like an ******* all the time.
Why are you wondering which you should choose? Put the old B16 tranny on your car, and run it until it explodes (metaphorically), and all the while just rebuild your GSR (one meant to be used with the motor) until it's practically brand new, then slap the bitch on there. You could even get an LSD in that time and put it on.
Or you can do it the other way around if you want even shorter gearing. My $.02
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (BlackoutVTi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackoutVTi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's called the Honda third gear grind for a reason: It happens in all Honda trannies, all the time.
Why are you wondering which you should choose? Put the old B16 tranny on your car, and run it until it explodes (metaphorically), and all the while just rebuild your GSR (one meant to be used with the motor) until it's practically brand new. Then slap the bitch on there. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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That's called the Honda third gear grind for a reason: It happens in all Honda trannies, all the time.
Why are you wondering which you should choose? Put the old B16 tranny on your car, and run it until it explodes (metaphorically), and all the while just rebuild your GSR (one meant to be used with the motor) until it's practically brand new. Then slap the bitch on there.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Gospel
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (BlackoutVTi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlackoutVTi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's called the Honda third gear grind for a reason: It happens in all Honda trannies, all the time. Either transmission will fall apart if you shift like an ******* all the time.
Why are you wondering which you should choose? Put the old B16 tranny on your car, and run it until it explodes (metaphorically), and all the while just rebuild your GSR (one meant to be used with the motor) until it's practically brand new, then slap the bitch on there. You could even get an LSD in that time and put it on.
Or you can do it the other way around if you want even shorter gearing. My $.02 </TD></TR></TABLE>
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That's called the Honda third gear grind for a reason: It happens in all Honda trannies, all the time. Either transmission will fall apart if you shift like an ******* all the time.
Why are you wondering which you should choose? Put the old B16 tranny on your car, and run it until it explodes (metaphorically), and all the while just rebuild your GSR (one meant to be used with the motor) until it's practically brand new, then slap the bitch on there. You could even get an LSD in that time and put it on.
Or you can do it the other way around if you want even shorter gearing. My $.02
</TD></TR></TABLE>Ninja edits
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (highrev1987)
well honda 3rd gear grind...!! that make sence..but i only had it with b16 trannies and i had ls and gsr before...but its true that if you treat your tranny like a$$ the is going to grind.....im surprise this thread aint locked yet..!!
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Re: B16 Tranny VS. GSR Tranny (Lscivic1999)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lscivic1999 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im surprise this thread aint locked yet..!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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It will be soon, lol.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by highrev1987 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
</TD></TR></TABLE>It will be soon, lol.