b16 or b18
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b16 or b18
i have a 98 sohc civic and i am def planning on swaping it out for a b16 or b18 which one would be best o ya its a coupe as well if that means any thing
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Re: b16 or b18
i copied this from the engine swap info here
B16
These can be found in the JDM SIR and SIRII (among other JDM cars, which I don't claim to know all of which it came in) as well as the USDM 99-00 SI (EM1) and the 99-00 Canadian SIR. They can also be found in the Del Sol VTEC (thanks NinetySevenDC2 and Syndacate).
Pros
160 hp stock
High RPM power
Fairly inexpensive
Good transmission
DOHC VTEC
Cons
113ft/lbs torque (very little more than a D16z6 stock)
Without knowing what you're looking for you can end up with a high mileage JDM model
Under 4k or so it feels just like a D16
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B18B
This is the motor in the non Type-R and non GSR Integra.
Pros
Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs)
Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16)
142 hp (more than any stock D series)
Boost heads love them
Cons
No VTEC
Longest B series transmission
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B18C1 (or JDM B18C)
These come out of an Integra GSR.
Pros
Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively)
DOHC VTEC
Tons of potential
High revving
Cons
Expensive
Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up
Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16
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B18C5 (or JDM B18C)
This is found in the Integra Type-R. IMHO this is the best swap for a Civic.
Pros
GREAT HP and TQ numbers (195 and 134 ft/lbs)
High revving
Hand built motor from Honda
Optional factory LSD
Best transmission for a B series from the factory
Red valve cover
Cons
EXPENSIVE
If JDM ITR is used, the 36mm axle 32mm hub problems occur
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B16B
This is the motor found in the Civic Type R found all over the world.
Pros
185 hp 117 ft/lbs
High revving
Good top end power
Red valve cover
Cons
Expensive- almost as much as an ITR for lower performance
Very little torque still, have to rev the motor to make power
it really depends on what you are looking for or what you want to gain from the swap.
are you swapping it for DD? Track?
i dont have a coupe but usually the coupes that i see has B16.
B16
These can be found in the JDM SIR and SIRII (among other JDM cars, which I don't claim to know all of which it came in) as well as the USDM 99-00 SI (EM1) and the 99-00 Canadian SIR. They can also be found in the Del Sol VTEC (thanks NinetySevenDC2 and Syndacate).
Pros
160 hp stock
High RPM power
Fairly inexpensive
Good transmission
DOHC VTEC
Cons
113ft/lbs torque (very little more than a D16z6 stock)
Without knowing what you're looking for you can end up with a high mileage JDM model
Under 4k or so it feels just like a D16
##############################################
B18B
This is the motor in the non Type-R and non GSR Integra.
Pros
Good torque for a 1.8L (127 ft/lbs)
Inexpensive (even cheaper than a B16)
142 hp (more than any stock D series)
Boost heads love them
Cons
No VTEC
Longest B series transmission
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B18C1 (or JDM B18C)
These come out of an Integra GSR.
Pros
Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively)
DOHC VTEC
Tons of potential
High revving
Cons
Expensive
Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up
Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16
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B18C5 (or JDM B18C)
This is found in the Integra Type-R. IMHO this is the best swap for a Civic.
Pros
GREAT HP and TQ numbers (195 and 134 ft/lbs)
High revving
Hand built motor from Honda
Optional factory LSD
Best transmission for a B series from the factory
Red valve cover
Cons
EXPENSIVE
If JDM ITR is used, the 36mm axle 32mm hub problems occur
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B16B
This is the motor found in the Civic Type R found all over the world.
Pros
185 hp 117 ft/lbs
High revving
Good top end power
Red valve cover
Cons
Expensive- almost as much as an ITR for lower performance
Very little torque still, have to rev the motor to make power
it really depends on what you are looking for or what you want to gain from the swap.
are you swapping it for DD? Track?
i dont have a coupe but usually the coupes that i see has B16.
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Re: b16 or b18
"If JDM ITR is used, the 36mm axle 32mm hub problems occur"
wrong, you don't have to use 36mm axles with the JDM ITR motor. That's only if you are using JDM ITR hubs. and even then you don't have a problem becuase you can use 97/98 Prelude S axles and still work fine.
wrong, you don't have to use 36mm axles with the JDM ITR motor. That's only if you are using JDM ITR hubs. and even then you don't have a problem becuase you can use 97/98 Prelude S axles and still work fine.
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what do i do with the wiring
i have a 97 honda civic hatchback i dropped a 95 d15b stage 3 vtech motor in and the wiring harness is different how do i wire the 95 year wiring harness to the ecu any know>????
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Re: b16 or b18
I would suggest you read this first:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/engine-swap-info-faqs-how-ck-engine-lights-878010/
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/engine-swap-info-faqs-how-ck-engine-lights-878010/
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Re: b16 or b18
if your going to swap it just save up for the b18c1 or c5 unless you just want vtec and not spend alot of money just go for b16 up to you either motor will rip your cars light both will be fun gsr motor though will be a mustang killer i have a 96 hatch and thats what i am putting in my car it will be prolly high 13s but its going to be a dd so im fine with that
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Re: b16 or b18
go b20 get a jdm longblock for about 500 build yourself something way cheaper to build if you know what your doing the only prob with the b20 they dont rev past 8000 if u want it 2 last
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