B16 with 84mm pistons?
01-08-2004, 06:00 AM
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Re: B16 with 84mm pistons? (13HYBRID20)
a sleeved B16?
checkout http://www.importreview.com but most of the setups they have are very well tuned setups. An 84mm B16 would be what, almost 1.8 liters... so really you would be looking at the 1.8 liter charts for a true comparison.
checkout http://www.importreview.com but most of the setups they have are very well tuned setups. An 84mm B16 would be what, almost 1.8 liters... so really you would be looking at the 1.8 liter charts for a true comparison.
01-08-2004, 07:42 AM
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Re: B16 with 84mm pistons? (13HYBRID20)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 13HYBRID20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No I want to know what kinda numbers you can get from a 84mm piston with a 77mm stroke.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Too vague of a question. You need to compensate compression (pistons) into it. Somebody might say they can put down xxx whp with some 10:1 comp pistons in their 84mm B16A, while another can put down zzz whp with some 12.5:1 comp pistons in their 84mm pistons, possibly a good 50+ hp difference. There are also other things to factor in such as head, cams, intake & exhaust setups, ECU tuning, etc.
Too vague of a question. You need to compensate compression (pistons) into it. Somebody might say they can put down xxx whp with some 10:1 comp pistons in their 84mm B16A, while another can put down zzz whp with some 12.5:1 comp pistons in their 84mm pistons, possibly a good 50+ hp difference. There are also other things to factor in such as head, cams, intake & exhaust setups, ECU tuning, etc.
01-08-2004, 09:20 AM
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Re: B16 with 84mm pistons? (13HYBRID20)
That's the problem. Most people never compare two motors identical one being 84 and one being 81mm. If you take a B16A and sleeve it to 84mm most are going to atleast change the valvetrain, maybe a little headwork, quality bolt-on's etc...
The only comparison I can give you is for turbo. I have seen 10whp and 30wtq gains on a turbo b16a changing nothing more then sleeving from 81-84mm bore and retuning. Don't expect this on an N/A motor.
It sounds to me like you are trying to justify whether you should spend the money to have it sleeved.
The only comparison I can give you is for turbo. I have seen 10whp and 30wtq gains on a turbo b16a changing nothing more then sleeving from 81-84mm bore and retuning. Don't expect this on an N/A motor.
It sounds to me like you are trying to justify whether you should spend the money to have it sleeved.
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01-11-2004, 02:33 PM
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Re: B16 with 84mm pistons? (13HYBRID20)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 13HYBRID20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No I want to know what kinda numbers you can get from a 84mm piston with a 77mm stroke.</TD></TR></TABLE>
GOLLY.....TOO MANY VARIABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there isn't one set number for a given setup....why don't you kids understand this?!?!?!?
GOLLY.....TOO MANY VARIABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there isn't one set number for a given setup....why don't you kids understand this?!?!?!?
01-11-2004, 02:34 PM
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Re: B16 with 84mm pistons? (13HYBRID20)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 13HYBRID20 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">172HP 118TQ with stock compression and stock head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i can get that out of a 81 mm b16 without cams!
i can get that out of a 81 mm b16 without cams!
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