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Old 05-05-2007, 12:08 AM
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sup guys which motor swap would you guys get B-serries type r or K20r?? cuz im debating on what motor i should get lol...so just reply to me on what you think and tell me whats the good and the bad things on this motor k thnx...
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welll......if ur looking for serious power like never seen before go with a K! If ur on a budget and dont wanna spend the doh...get the played out b-series type r. Remember that k-series is gonna eventually take over the b due to its better mechanics and unprecedented power .
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played out B Series Type R motors??? how many ppl do you no has a Type R motor??? your just plain stoopid to be saying that... anyways both K and B series motor are great.. yes the K would be better if you can afford tha motor/labor.. as for the Type R it cost quit a bit too... which ever one you get you'll be happy... as for me if i was doing a swap i would go with the Type R bseries.. just because its simple and the torque/hp is great..

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if i were you i'd go with the sr20de.

if you really wanna go overboard, then i would recommend a D22c5
Old 05-05-2007, 05:44 AM
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h22 > k.

For the cost of doing a k you could run 10lbs on an h and whoop k's left and right. and still have money left over for a set of Volks.

h2b ftw.




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Old 05-05-2007, 06:22 AM
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Dude are you even serious when you ask this question?

How can you even compair a motor that costs 3.5k to put in vs 9k?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by goldegg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How can you even compair a motor that costs 3.5k to put in vs 9k?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Didn't even think about it that way.

Good point.

Two totally differen't motors/application/install

k20 requires fabrication, expensive mounts, custom parts, etc.

b18c5 is way more plug and play.

I think he's actually just stuck one the "Type-r" thing.

if it aint Type-R it's not fast right?
Old 05-06-2007, 08:46 PM
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yeah man you cant go wrong with either one..both motors are very popular... dont really see too many swaps with a K type R or B type R.. either one you'll be happyy
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h22 &gt; k.

For the cost of doing a k you could run 10lbs on an h and whoop k's left and right. and still have money left over for a set of Volks.

h2b ftw.




Modified by ek forever guy at 7:02 AM 5/5/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd sleeve it to be safe to boost a h22a. A sleeved H2B Turbo is a good combo
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'd sleeve it to be safe to boost a h22a. A sleeved H2B Turbo is a good combo </TD></TR></TABLE>


no sleeves needed it all depends on tuning.
Old 05-07-2007, 05:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbociviccoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
no sleeves needed it all depends on tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, expletive sleeves. H22 isn't a flippin b20.

Old 05-07-2007, 07:37 AM
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k20a type R!!!!

&lt;---- BIASED OPINION!!!!!

seriously, the question should be do you have an unlimited budget?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CapnKrunch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'd sleeve it to be safe to boost a h22a. A sleeved H2B Turbo is a good combo </TD></TR></TABLE>

Tool, refrain from talking.

If he's boosting 10lbs he's boosting on stock internals. If he's boosting on stock internals he's not swapping out the internals. If he's not swapping out the internals there's no need for the new rings to seal to the composite cylinder walls.

Reworded: Boosting on stock internals is perfectly okay, just as okay as a B series or D series. The only difference is, if you want to push it past there you have to sleeve the cylinders b/c the composite of the stock walls won't seal well w/ the new rings.

At 10psi that H22 on stock internals will be perfectly okay and not require sleeving.

On that note, whoever said H2B + 10psi = thx

That'll dick whip any stock ITR or K20.

Though between ITR and K20, go with the ITR, the K20's played out, yeah it's fast, but it's not worth TWICE the cost (and that's if you do all the fabrication yourself, if you have a shop do it, it's A LOT more) for the lousy 30whp difference.
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Default Re: b-serries type r or k20r?? (ballinsk8er)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ballinsk8er &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sup guys which motor swap would you guys get B-serries type r or K20r?? cuz im debating on what motor i should get lol...so just reply to me on what you think and tell me whats the good and the bad things on this motor k thnx...</TD></TR></TABLE>


Both motors are over-rated and played out, which ever you have $$ for, get it, there both awesome motors, you wont go wrong with either one, which car do you plan on doing this swap with? If I had the $$ K swap, bar'd legal, completely stock except i/h/e and hondata ecu, but also depends on the vehicle being used.
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At 10psi that H22 on stock internals will be perfectly okay and not require sleeving.

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You forgot to mention which turbo at 10psi, which matters most.
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If the budget is good, I would go with the K-series R. If not, you still wont be disapointed by any means with a B-series R, and then could still have some cash to put into the motor
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If I could afford a K20R I would get it but I am a bum
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It makes me crazy how much people pay to have a k swap.

Ridiculous IMO.

Probably the least effecient way of getting more power as far as money/horsepower is concerned.
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im going to be biast because i love my b16b
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Agent_EM1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I could afford a K20R I would get it but I am a bum</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, you could low ball it but I have heard done right with K-Pro it is around 10k all said and done.
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Yeah, you could low ball it but I have heard done right with K-Pro it is around 10k all said and done.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah for 10k I could do an h2b, boost it and make 300whp and still have enough money left for a set of volks and a jdm front end conversion for an integra.

And eat k20's for breakfast.
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Even tho its expensive im going to be going K just for the whole fact I dont want to have the H series valve cover stopping my hood from closing at stock height im going frankenstien more than likely or I may just go with base model k series from an RSX get it for a grand have vtec and expletive around with that make it higher compression and boost a little bit and That power will make me content in my hatch for a lil while.
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^^ you'd rather spend 10k than have your hood cowled a little bit?

For stock k-swap numbers I'd rather boost an Ls.

I'd spend $3000 maybe and have the cool noise, less headache, and more go-ness.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah for 10k I could do an h2b, boost it and make 300whp and still have enough money left for a set of volks and a jdm front end conversion for an integra.

And eat k20's for breakfast.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Now your talkin! Come to think of it,, I am kinda hungry!

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