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Old 03-13-2011, 06:27 PM
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Default B-series engine swap into '96 civic questions

First off im am an engine swap virgin so i'll need all the help I can get. My budget is 3000 and I want to put a standard b18 or b18c into my 96 Hatchback.
I want to boost the car...Do i have enough money to boost it, will I need to build the engine? I want the car to be able to beat most of the v8s on the road (mustangs, camarros, etc..) Will I need to get another transmission? The b18 will bolt directly into it right? And can I use my 92 civic automatic window motors in the 96 hatch and is the conversion hard? Im sure i'll think of other questions later.

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Default Re: Hello Tech Heads, I have some questions.

You wont need to rebuild the engine if you buy a good swap. But itd probably be a good idea to inspect it once you buy to see if you need to replace anything. and depending if you get a good deal you MIGHT be able to turbo but idk for sure, never gone the turbo route so dont know the cost of it really. You will have to get a b series tranny cause the d series will not bolt up to it.
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Default Re: Hello Tech Heads, I have some questions.

With the $3000 I suggest you make sure you get a decent swap and work from there.

The car will not beat any v8s on the road with a stock b-series engine. Unless they are terrible drivers. Stock b-series engines are for the most part slow. With the exception of the ITR and that's mostly due to it normally being mated to an ITR transmission with a limited slip, and a more aggressive set of cams.

Why do you want to beat v8s so badly?

Please keep your nonsense off of the street if that is your intentions.
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Thanks for the advice. There are a lot of v8s where i live and I would like a fast enough car to beat them, thats all. MORE IDEAS AND COMMENTS ENCOURAGED!!@!@
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Thanks for the advice. There are a lot of v8s where i live and I would like a fast enough car to beat them, thats all. MORE IDEAS AND COMMENTS ENCOURAGED!!@!@
You wont beat them with a B series. Trust lol. Boooooost the fck out of it then you might have a chance.
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Thanks for the advice. There are a lot of v8s where i live and I would like a fast enough car to beat them, thats all. MORE IDEAS AND COMMENTS ENCOURAGED!!@!@
That's all? Watching a lot of Fast and Furious have we? Probably need more than 3 grand.
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That's all? Watching a lot of Fast and Furious have we? Probably need more than 3 grand.
3 grand would be enough if he just wanted a reliable turbo build. ~250whp would be plenty.
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3 grand would be enough if he just wanted a reliable turbo build. ~250whp would be plenty.
But that's not all he wants. He wants to beat up on musclecars.
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YEAH I WANT TO BEAT UP ON MUSCLE CARS! So this is the motor/tranny im going to get http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc...age&item=30008 . I'll just boost it down the road. Will the b18c bolt in to my 96 hatch? Any tips that will help the swap go smoother?
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Do you even know how much horsepower you would need to make to get you to your "goal"? Do the swap. You might be able to spank some of the older domestics.

Will it just bolt up? Nope. Check the FAQs for swap info and do a quick search. It's been done before.
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wanna beat v8 without boost? go K
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Originally Posted by TOO MUCH TORQUE
wanna beat v8 without boost? go K
This is extremely vague.

Which v8? Crown Victorias have a v8.

There's plenty of haul-*** h22s and b-series as well, so k-series isn't the only feasible n/a option.
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Originally Posted by TOO MUCH TORQUE
wanna beat v8 without boost? go K
Not with the 3k he has.

Even than, 3k isn't going to beat up on mustangs,vetts or other cars.
A vic? possilibly.

My dad has 2. a 96 and a 99. A N/A ITR will stomp on the 96, as long as you aren't going for top speed. If so, youll losse.
The 99, don't bother. That bitch is sideways, and turning the tires into spinning ***** of smoke.
They are geared completly different. Oh, and those are both EX state potrol cop cars.

I took the 99 out for a little drive when he got it. And let's just say that is last time I give it gas while turning. And I wasn't close to WOT.

Why do you want to beat them so bad? Just to say you did?
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Not with the 3k he has.
Why do you want to beat them so bad? Just to say you did?
Really I just want a fast car, My brother in law has a mustang gt that i've driven a lot recently and I like the power. I want more power! What would you guys do with 3000?
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Really I just want a fast car, My brother in law has a mustang gt that i've driven a lot recently and I like the power. I want more power! What would you guys do with 3000?
i'd go on a vacation to europe
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Really I just want a fast car, My brother in law has a mustang gt that i've driven a lot recently and I like the power. I want more power! What would you guys do with 3000?
For that you can piece together a decent turbo for your D with a bottom end Vitara build if you take your time and find some good deals and used parts. Don't forget about engine management and a good, REALLY good, tune.
Should have bought a Mustang. Really.
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Id say Grumblemarc is right. Since you are starting from scratch, 3grand isnt going to get you very far with b-series. Keep the D-series in it and do a vitara build and turbo it. If you do it right you will run away from a 400whp procharged Gt.
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I'd keep saving. Personaly, I don't like single cams and wouldn't waste my money modifiy one.
Thats just me.

Build a motor, and a good turbo kit on 3k? I coudn't. Don't forgot about the upgrades to the fuel system, and ECU.
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I'd keep saving. Personaly, I don't like single cams and wouldn't waste my money modifiy one.
Thats just me.

Build a motor, and a good turbo kit on 3k? I coudn't. Don't forgot about the upgrades to the fuel system, and ECU.
I agree. Be patient.

I've been driving around a slow d16y7 for years now. Believe me, i'm tired of it. I could scrape together about $3,000 right now if I was desperate and boost my car or do a basic b-series swap.

However, I'd like to save the money up apart from my stocks/retirement and get $5,000 ready to go so I can just knock out the swap all at once and do it right.
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i spent 2200 total on my swap and everything i needed to do my swap. i have a b17a with a gsr tranny with lsd. used the p28 ecu and the engine harness from the single vtec, that were already on the car. i bought the motor, and tranns from my homie for 1500. i think u can do a b series swap with 3000.....
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Originally Posted by ek forever guy
I agree. Be patient.

I've been driving around a slow d16y7 for years now. Believe me, i'm tired of it. I could scrape together about $3,000 right now if I was desperate and boost my car or do a basic b-series swap.

However, I'd like to save the money up apart from my stocks/retirement and get $5,000 ready to go so I can just knock out the swap all at once and do it right.
im in the exact same situation. just waiting for the right time to do the whole thing the right way, buy swap, go through it and replace anything bad/worn, prep the car, and drop it in.
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oh and i had to change my fuel pump....
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i spent 2200 total on my swap and everything i needed to do my swap. i have a b17a with a gsr tranny with lsd. used the p28 ecu and the engine harness from the single vtec, that were already on the car. i bought the motor, and tranns from my homie for 1500. i think u can do a b series swap with 3000.....
There question isn't whether or not he can do a b-series swap for $3,000.

He wants to beat up muscle cars naturally aspirated for $3,000.

It just aint happening.
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Originally Posted by 91 DA B18B1
i spent 2200 total on my swap and everything i needed to do my swap. i have a b17a with a gsr tranny with lsd. used the p28 ecu and the engine harness from the single vtec, that were already on the car. i bought the motor, and tranns from my homie for 1500. i think u can do a b series swap with 3000.....
You can do b series swaps all day for that. Hell my friend had 2800 in his and he got a damn ITR trans.

You won't boost and swap for 3k.

I've had my car for 3 years, still rocking the Y7. It will come out when the time is right, and I can do the swap exactly how I want.


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