all_motorsi

I have decided to do something that will require a little more than your average bolt on turbo kit's worth of fabrication: an AWD conversion on a 2000 Honda Civic SI.

Currently:

B16a
Garret t3/t4 .60 10PSI
Water/Air intercooling
Ohlins 34-way adjustable coilovers
Poly bushings all around
etc etc etc

Has anyone successfully done this....

So far i know only of one option (and i dont like it)

B-20 CRV transmission is a 4wd unit. fairly weak with horrible gear ratios.

what would it take to fabricate a bellhousing and use a 2G DSM AWD transmission/drivetrain setup?

EVo8?

Basically im looking for a list of GOOD strong Transverse mounted AWD transmissions. please help compile. Call me a f*** moron... please.... i fabricate parts often i know what im getting into FULLY. (new rear suspension, hubs, custom axles all around, chassis flexing compensation, engine mounting etc etc. ) the whole car was going to come apart anyhow for stitch welding and a roll cage, its winter time figured i needed a project!

My goal is to have a boostlaunching capable B-series powered AWD civic that is under 3150LBS with fully built B18 turbo @25PSI and have it look pretty much bone stock.

pdiggitydogg

You are not the first to think of this....so youre not crazy, just slow to the punch (very slow)

If you have to ask what it would take, you really shouldnt be trying to do such a thing - leave it to those who can understand it THEN give up on it because its not worth the time/effort

kaiba

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Ron454321

Why not just start with a CRV and put the Civic
body on, would be easier then Civettes car. Not sure if you read up on that yet.

HondamanXxX

Post up on the Fabrication/Welding forum. I have seen a lot of different things in there.

themikewoo

Good luck. I hope you have deeeeeeeeep pockets. This will cost a lot of money.

skateboard_ej8

iTrader: (4)

Go look in the hybrid section. There's a guy in there that did/is doing an "AWD Del slo" haha jk Del sol. Maybe try to get some ideas from him. The chassis is gona be a little different but, you said u do fab work so it should be no problem for you to take ideas from his work. It seems to be pretty well documented so, cheers. and good luck.

1992Si

Check this thread, https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2104408

NOFX

Btw, there are already AWD 5th and 6th gen sedans in Japan. They're usually called the RTi.

Padawan

Search for information about the Braille Auto Integra.

97Ej6mike

If i am not mistaken, at one point some civic ferios were offered in AWD in japan only, somewhere someone once posted the PDF of the brochure actually from japan, showing a listing of EG and EK civics, one of which was offered in an AWD transmission. Can anyone remember what im talking about? Im going to search and see if i can dig it up again somewhere.


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Missed that part, yes!, im not crazy, i did see that at one point, lol.

As for putting a DSM motor into a civic... I dont see why it couldnt be done, given you have an exuberant amount of cash, time, knowledge and creativity.

94c1v1cex

why not just use the crv tranny and rebuild it with better gear ratios?

97Ej6mike

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You can, but some modifications must be made to the car itself (civic or integra) to accomodate a drive shaft, rear differential, ect,.. well, you get the point. I used to read articles of this back in 2000-2001 in superstreet and import tuner of people doing such mods.

oneludesol

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but I just saw the vid of the 91 hb with the wagovan awd trans and a 400 whp d16z6...

Maybe you can go H2D and use the wagovan setup... That would be epic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxtf3_IHTfs

H22Ej1

from what ive heard in stock form the wagovans awd trans is pure crap and offers a power distribution of 80-20

marcs1337

if i recall correctly, there were some civic wagons that were awd, in the early 90s, stock from factory

H22Ej1

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yeup these r the wagovans i was refering to lol

2redstars

didnt honda-tuning do an awd type-r?

Civic9390

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by all_motorsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have decided to do something that will require a little more than your average bolt on turbo kit's worth of fabrication: an AWD conversion on a 2000 Honda Civic SI.

Currently:

B16a
Garret t3/t4 .60 10PSI
Water/Air intercooling
Ohlins 34-way adjustable coilovers
Poly bushings all around
etc etc etc

Has anyone successfully done this....

So far i know only of one option (and i dont like it)

B-20 CRV transmission is a 4wd unit. fairly weak with horrible gear ratios.

what would it take to fabricate a bellhousing and use a 2G DSM AWD transmission/drivetrain setup?

EVo8?

Basically im looking for a list of GOOD strong Transverse mounted AWD transmissions. please help compile. Call me a f*** moron... please.... i fabricate parts often i know what im getting into FULLY. (new rear suspension, hubs, custom axles all around, chassis flexing compensation, engine mounting etc etc. ) the whole car was going to come apart anyhow for stitch welding and a roll cage, its winter time figured i needed a project!

My goal is to have a boostlaunching capable B-series powered AWD civic that is under 3150LBS with fully built B18 turbo @25PSI and have it look pretty much bone stock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If your going to do that you misewell just use a 4g63 motor ive seen them in civics, it was pretty fast...When it starts lmao!

oneludesol

ewwwwww DSM LOL

meandino

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If i am not mistaken, at one point some civic ferios were offered in AWD in japan only, somewhere someone once posted the PDF of the brochure actually from japan, showing a listing of EG and EK civics, one of which was offered in an AWD transmission. Can anyone remember what im talking about? Im going to search and see if i can dig it up again somewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Which is also the JDM RHD 96-00 Honda Civic Ferio RTi 4WD. With MT and ABS.

instrument

its been four months...wonder how far he's come with his project.

lol?

(further bumps old thread)

b18cDelSlo

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c'mon now. dsms aren't that bad! just require a LOT of maintenance (have owned 3 AWDs)

blackhbkid

you are not the first to think of this i was look on i think you tube or somthin and found this website he had a 400 hp d16z6 then got a old wagovan and swapped a bunch of the parts off it and built a awd turbo hatch ef body though

blackhbkid

check out EpicTuning.com they are the guys that built the ef and they have vids on there site or the hatch