automatic trans lines
08-06-2014, 01:07 PM
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automatic trans lines
Does anyone know which way these lines flow? And does anyone wanna recommend where to put this filter? I cant decide if it belongs before or after the cooler. The flow direction of the trans lines way more important tho
d16z6 automatic EH9 all stock
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08-06-2014, 02:31 PM
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08-06-2014, 02:33 PM
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You didn't watch me with my wife's car did you.
You musta missed this, pic of filter installed posted here:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...3203115&page=2
You musta missed this, pic of filter installed posted here:
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...3203115&page=2
08-06-2014, 02:35 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
I dunno which way the car flows, thats my problem. I was thinking about putting it after the cooler as well.
do you remember which line is return?
08-06-2014, 02:42 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
I mean I dunno which way the trans lines flow.
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08-06-2014, 03:01 PM
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The right hand LONG hard metal tube that runs to the back of the transmission is the return line. The SHORT left metal tube that only goes part way up the transmission is the exit line to the intercooler. This is for the 92-95 4 speed only. The 96-00 MAY be different and will require more research or someone with experience input.
Also if you actually read the instructions that came with the filter, it tells you the filter is one way and that the arrow indicates flow direction. That way you don't have to speculate based on an arrow alone.
08-06-2014, 03:05 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
No, no no......
The right hand hard metal tube that runs to the back of the transmission is the return line. The short left line that only goes part way up the transmission is the exit line to the intercooler. This is for the 92-95 4 speed only. The 96-00 MAY be different and will require more research or someone with experience input.
Also if you actually read the instructions that came with the filter, it tells you the filter is one way and that the arrow indicates flow direction. That way you don't have to speculate based on an arrow alone.
The right hand hard metal tube that runs to the back of the transmission is the return line. The short left line that only goes part way up the transmission is the exit line to the intercooler. This is for the 92-95 4 speed only. The 96-00 MAY be different and will require more research or someone with experience input.
Also if you actually read the instructions that came with the filter, it tells you the filter is one way and that the arrow indicates flow direction. That way you don't have to speculate based on an arrow alone.
am I wrong on which way the fluid enter the trans cooler? Ignoring the hard lines for a moment, it returns from the cooler on the driver side?
08-06-2014, 03:50 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
p.s. I didnt need to know that to fix up my J auto.
p.s.s you never responded to my p.m tony
08-06-2014, 04:03 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
and I finally got a pic of my intake manifold, it cracked exactly at that dumb crush washer. I'm considering completely breaking it cuz I fully expect to find an air bubble or some other casting flaw. That dumb intake shouldn't have broken it wasn't even tight. I followed the torque spec the sequence. Its an unexplainable tragedy that I had to spend 75$ on a new intake, but I also got a spare TB ivac and whatever.
08-06-2014, 04:13 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
Blame inexperience trollers who can't put an intake manifold on, blame inexperience failed trollers who can't do proper maintenance on a transmission. My friend has a v6 accord auto and it finally failed on him at 170k, than when he did his timing belt the tensioner snapped so guess what we swapped in a TL j32 for him. He still loves his car til this day.
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08-06-2014, 04:18 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
That trans was properly maintained following Honda directions since it was bought in '04.
according to Honda, the filter is non-serviceable. Honda wanted them to fail, otherwise they would have the filter replacement as regular maintenance. There is no other explanation for telling customers that a trans filter which is only held in via 3 bolts is non-serviceable. If I had bought an aftermarket intake I probably would have noticed, its right under the airbox.
and yeah yeah j32 I know but I bet you didn't stroke it w/ MDX rods and make an engine w/ 300ft lbs of torque at 1500 rpms.
according to Honda, the filter is non-serviceable. Honda wanted them to fail, otherwise they would have the filter replacement as regular maintenance. There is no other explanation for telling customers that a trans filter which is only held in via 3 bolts is non-serviceable. If I had bought an aftermarket intake I probably would have noticed, its right under the airbox.
and yeah yeah j32 I know but I bet you didn't stroke it w/ MDX rods and make an engine w/ 300ft lbs of torque at 1500 rpms.
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08-07-2014, 05:49 AM
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The absolute method is to identify the hard lines. The long hard line is the return, the short hard line is the purge. The long hard line wraps around to the back side (firewall) of the transmission from the front of the car. The short line only runs up to the middle of the top of the transmission on the passenger side if I recall correctly.
The transmission is the item that is concerned about flow, not the cooler. With your description if someone had reversed the hoses on the bottom of the hard lines (they are side by side 1/2 inch apart), they could put a one way flow filter on backwards and kill their tranny. If they instead ID it by the hard lines, then the cooler is no longer considered.
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08-07-2014, 01:05 PM
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Re: automatic trans lines
Don't concentrate on the cooler. The cooler doesn't care about flow direction, you could put the rubber hoses on either way and it wouldn't make a difference. Well, it might be a bit more efficient one way over the other but it wouldn't stop flow, just might make the transmission pump work harder.
The absolute method is to identify the hard lines. The long hard line is the return, the short hard line is the purge. The long hard line wraps around to the back side (firewall) of the transmission from the front of the car. The short line only runs up to the middle of the top of the transmission on the passenger side if I recall correctly.
The transmission is the item that is concerned about flow, not the cooler. With your description if someone had reversed the hoses on the bottom of the hard lines (they are side by side 1/2 inch apart), they could put a one way flow filter on backwards and kill their tranny. If they instead ID it by the hard lines, then the cooler is no longer considered.
The absolute method is to identify the hard lines. The long hard line is the return, the short hard line is the purge. The long hard line wraps around to the back side (firewall) of the transmission from the front of the car. The short line only runs up to the middle of the top of the transmission on the passenger side if I recall correctly.
The transmission is the item that is concerned about flow, not the cooler. With your description if someone had reversed the hoses on the bottom of the hard lines (they are side by side 1/2 inch apart), they could put a one way flow filter on backwards and kill their tranny. If they instead ID it by the hard lines, then the cooler is no longer considered.
08-07-2014, 02:21 PM
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No problem, glad to help.
Another detail for anyone who may be reading this in the present or the future.
If you are installing a brand new cooler, it's recommended to put the filter before the cooler so on your purge line. The reason why earlier in this thread I said put it after your cooler is in my case and the one presented here in this thread, the cooler is old and may contain all kinds of contaminates that can dislodge with fresh clean fluid. In these cases you want the filter after the cooler to catch this gunk before it goes back into the transmission.
T/L; D/R: New Cooler, filter before cooler to keep cooler clean. Old Cooler, filter after filter to catch cooler garbage from going into tranmission.
Another detail for anyone who may be reading this in the present or the future.
If you are installing a brand new cooler, it's recommended to put the filter before the cooler so on your purge line. The reason why earlier in this thread I said put it after your cooler is in my case and the one presented here in this thread, the cooler is old and may contain all kinds of contaminates that can dislodge with fresh clean fluid. In these cases you want the filter after the cooler to catch this gunk before it goes back into the transmission.
T/L; D/R: New Cooler, filter before cooler to keep cooler clean. Old Cooler, filter after filter to catch cooler garbage from going into tranmission.
08-07-2014, 04:09 PM
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