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Old 04-04-2005, 10:22 AM
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Default 96-00 civic auto to 5-spd swap help!

i need to know everyhting there is to swap a auto to 5-spd in a 97 hatch

i have
integra pedal assy
EG linkages
EG tranny
EG flywheel and clutch /press plate
clutch lines
EK ecu

if there is any wiring problems please
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or call me 724-422-9667

as far as i know its plug and play.
Old 04-04-2005, 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 96-00 civic auto to 5-spd swap help! (hondalowlow)

Your going to need more parts then that...

Clutch Resovir
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Probably a couple other parts, you've got the big stuff though. I'm in the process of doing one on my EG.
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u need a 5 speed intake manifold and a 2 wire IACV with plug....

5 speed starter
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Default Re: 96-00 civic auto to 5-spd swap help! (hondalowlow)

you will have to drill the two holes to mount the shifter and make a plate so you don't have a big gaping hole where your shifter is. you have to wire the auto shifter switch mechanism into 'park' position. you don't need to wire up the clutch switch unless you want to start the car with the clutch depressed...otherwise the car starts without the clutch depressed. just make sure you clutch if you are in gear and starting the car or in neutral. also, wire your reverse light switch between the two reverse wires (green and yellow) off the auto shift switch so you have reverse lights. any other ?'s just pm.

*make sure you also get all the hardware you can for lines and esp the flywheel bolts since the manual flywheel bolts are longer than the torque converter drive plate ones.

*also make sure you have both mounts for the manual tranny.
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Default auto to 5-spd swap HELP!!!

hey i need to know everyhting there is about a auto to 5-spd swap and what ill all need

i got EG clurch fluwheel tranny linkages EK ecu teg pedals teg clutch lines and thats it if theres any crazy wiring bullshit let me know thanks
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Default Re: auto to 5-spd swap HELP!!! (hondalowlow)

no wiring

clutch resivoir and i think that is it


and why did you make two posts about the same thing? 05 members
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i got the resiviour and the starters r the same
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Default Re: 96-00 civic auto to 5-spd swap help! (hondalowlow)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondalowlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got the resiviour and the starters r the same</TD></TR></TABLE>

no there not, i learned the hard way. you will need a longer starter bolt and longer front tranny mount since the manual mount is thicker
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when i did mine i found out that the IACV was differant on the manuals and autos.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">u need a 5 speed intake manifold and a 2 wire IACV with plug....

5 speed starter</TD></TR></TABLE>

Werd. That's what I am working on now... You will need a manual throttle body, too.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civiccpedx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no wiring

clutch resivoir and i think that is it


and why did you make two posts about the same thing? 05 members</TD></TR></TABLE>Wrong there buddy.... (2) wires for your reverse lights, 1 wire for your clutch/starter engagement @ clutch pedal assembly, a close loop wiring of 10 awg wire plug @ old automatic shifter assembly......clutch reservoir, 5 spd pedals (clutch, brake, accelerator), 5 spd shift linkage, 5spd shifter with rubber boot, 5spd gauge cluster (optional), 5spd center console with boot, a sheet metal plate to cover up gap once 5spd shifter is in place...
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I want to do the conversion on my 97 Coupe, I'm probably going to do a complete swap, engine and the 5-speed conversion at once to make it easier. Right now I'm looking for a decent swap with $$ in hand if anyone has any complete swaps... B16, LS - etc that price range
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i have the EG complete intake manifold should i just use that , run and in the iacv pins
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be prepared to buy a mount kit if you have not already done so, either that or got to http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com and look up the mount braket under body parts, they are different when going from auto to 5-speed
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i got a 5spd EK upper tranny mount yesterday 1 set ahead of ya
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this is not a WTB or FS thread im looking for help wihtmy swap then i can give u advice and help u
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I merged both of the threads you made. DO NOT make a second thread on the same topic.
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Since when do you need a new intake manifold?
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Since when do you need a new intake manifold!

thats what i said
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Since the auto ecu uses a three wire IACV and the manual ecu uses a two wire IACV. There is no way to wire around this. There is no easy way to mount a two wire IACV to a manifold set up for a three wire IACV.

You must:
Install an IM from a manual y8
Re-pin the ecu harness for a two wire IACV
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I swear I saw a pic or thread describing how to convert the IACV to a two wire...not sure about the need for a manual IM

heres a parts list for an EK:
tranny
manual ecu
shift linkages
top and front manual tranny brackets
shift lever
manual starter
flywheel bolts
hydro hard lines and soft lines
pedals
clutch slave cylinder if not attached to tranny
master clutch cylinder with resevoir
manual intake manifold ---&gt; may not be necessary if anyone can find that pic or thread i was talking about
misc brackets for the hydro lines (if you want it to look oem and clean)
clutch
flywheel
tranny fluid

heres a great thread for the wiring - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=358464

there may be more, but thats off the top of my head

hope that helps some of the conversion peeps out there
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yea but the 5-spd dx has a 3 wire iacv also its has the toliet bowl style intake manifold since its a dx remember irs a ek were talking about
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deviant1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I swear I saw a pic or thread describing how to convert the IACV to a two wire...not sure about the need for a manual IM

heres a parts list for an EK:
tranny
manual ecu
shift linkages
top and front manual tranny brackets
shift lever
manual starter
flywheel bolts
hydro hard lines and soft lines
pedals
clutch slave cylinder if not attached to tranny
master clutch cylinder with resevoir
manual intake manifold ---&gt; may not be necessary if anyone can find that pic or thread i was talking about
misc brackets for the hydro lines (if you want it to look oem and clean)
clutch
flywheel
tranny fluid

heres a great thread for the wiring - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=358464

there may be more, but thats off the top of my head

hope that helps some of the conversion peeps out there</TD></TR></TABLE>

you need a manual IM with the 2 wire IACV and to repin the ecu harness
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you need a manual IM with the 2 wire IACV and to repin the ecu harness</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes


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