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Old 08-01-2004, 03:42 PM
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Just a quick question:

What refridgerant does your AC system use? I know in 92/93 it was R12, but the industry switched in 94 to R134a, and I was wondering if the 95's have the R134a...

It's supposedly going to cost me $750 to convert mine over, but I'm thinking maybe getting a used 95 AC system to put into my 92 which I can get for considerably less.

(Note, the 96+ EK AC systems are R134a, but the wiring is different from the EGs)

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Yes my 95 Si is R134a

I would imagine that everything would line up pretty close since it is the same chasis.

I have heard however that there is different wiring between the two models. I believe the R134a compressor has 3 wires, where the R12 only has 2. So you might have to do a little rewiring.
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yea 94 and up all R134a. There should be a sticker on your chasis telling you too.
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If you still have your system in your car you can convert it easily. They sell a kit at most automotive stores and Target from aerodynamics that converts the system over to R-134A. They only cost $35 and they even come with refrigerant and pag oil premixed. Then all you need to do is take it to a mechanic shop to have them do a vac down and a leak down test and you should be good to go. Just put the refrigerant in and it should work fine.(check factory specs to see how much you need) I did this on my g/f 89' Civic and it cost me about $90.
Im sure the mechanics want that just for the refrigerant. What a joke, huh?
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Old 08-03-2004, 07:58 AM
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hm I went to my local auto parts store and they've never heard of a conversion kit, telling me that you have to be certified and only shops can do it for alot of $$$.

Is R12 legal in the US? I'm only an hour north of the border.... Maybe I'll take a spin across the line then to Target and check out this 'kit'.

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hey civic rider

they sell r134a conversion kits at work but there all for chevs and gms i take a look into it for you
they you can buy my a/c
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Average Al &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey civic rider

they sell r134a conversion kits at work but there all for chevs and gms i take a look into it for you
they you can buy my a/c </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey man, thats great thanks. I think I have an R12 setup to buy...but just worry about not being able to convert it once I buy it...
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sorry, its made by interdynamics, I will try to get a website for it tomorrow. Do you have a Target around there? That is where I got mine.
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hmmmm my 93 si has r134a...
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93-94 was the crossover years. The 134a does have a conversion kit that should come with the fittings needed and the gauges and freon. Oh if any of you need R12 I have 2 virgin 30LB cylinders of it that I would like to get rid of. But you must furnnish a liscence to buy the stuff.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soccerking3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmmm my 93 si has r134a...</TD></TR></TABLE>
that means the previous owner already had it converted it if you didn't do it.
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They sell just the fitting @ walmart for 9-10 bucks, just fittings screws right over the original ones. That's what I did to mine.
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My 1995 has R134a. $10 to fill up.
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I could be wrong...but doesn't a conversion consists of a R134 dryer/reciever and all new O-rings? All the other hardware should work with either refidgerant....no?
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my 95 vx is R134a
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My 92 Civic DX is R-134a. Maybe a previous owner converted it?

An R-12 to R-134a conversion requires all new lines and fittings. There are products on the market that say you can just pop it in and it will work, but so many things need to be considered. Do not believe you can just squirt something in your A/C system and it will be R-134a.

A professional who is familiar with conversions should do the work. If you plan on keeping your car for a long time, I highly recommend you go to a professional independent repair shop and lay down the extra dollars.

Then again, they are putting a new 'standard' refrigerant in cars now, so it's all a big cycle.

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The conversion doesn't require new anything. I repeat it doesn't require anything.

You can get a product called "Hotshot" that will run R12 as if they were R134a systems. It's basically a R134a that is almost exactally the same as R12. It works very well, it might be a bit expensive though.
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W R O N G

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by perfectsquare &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Do not believe you can just squirt something in your A/C system and it will be R-134a.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Have you ever used it? Trust me it works. My whole family has done and is doing A/C all of their lives. (except my mom) It works.




Modified by yuckymucky at 6:19 PM 8/5/2004
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I just helped my friend convert his 90 hatch to 134a and all we did is buy the new O rings and nozzelsit was $40-$50. After that you can buy 134a at any auto parts store to charge it up. Doing it this way is a gamble though sometimes it works sometimes it does not. The best way to do this is to change the accumulator or dryer, add the proper type and amount of pag oil, change the fittings, pull a vacuum on the system and recharge with the proper amount of R134a. But like I said we did my friends car the cheapo way alittle while ago and had no problems .........so far
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I converted a 1993 Cadillac Seville to R-134a using one of those cheap aftermarket sprays. About 3 weeks afterwards, the seals all wore away and we had all kinds of problems. Finally took it to a mechanic who did it the right way.

If the cheap way gets you by, more power to you. Just a warning for long term users. It's gonna fail.
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For more info check here:

http://www.icorinternational.c....html

That stuff is not the cheap way out. We are using it in thousand dollar compressors and it works perfect. Expect to pay half the price of R12 though., maybe a little less.
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I got the website for the convesion kit I used. It's http://www.id-usa.com
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Oh, and I used the EZ Chill kit (the big square box on the front )
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