Blacknight117

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Is there really any advantage to removing the A/C system?

If you must know, I have an `95 EX..

r_Senik

other then weight, no.

i don't know how people see through there windshield on a rainy night...i use my defrost alot

grumblemarc

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No. And if you're not doing any serious racing then you're not saving much.

ss_zoidberg

It gets hot as hell, makes you feel like you're in a hot as hell race car

Blacknight117

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Yea, that`s what I figured.

gzes

Well if ur like me and dont have one in the car then I hires you can rock a bigger radiator and fit some more stuff in that area but if not then there's no real advantage.... And if ur in a hot state then its probably a bad deal to start off with since imo in good ol tx and it gets well over 100

Blacknight117

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I`m in Jersey, so the summer`s can be hot. Only reason for this thread is because the system doesn`s hold a charge, and I really dont wanna spend the money to have it fixed..

gsrturbo-ek

no gain...unless you wanna shave tuck your bay, do a big turbo with top mount......if its a street car definitely keep it

CRX Si69

You really will not notice any gains. You gain a couple HP simply because the engine doesn't have to turn that extra belt.

fungus mungus

If you run it, there is a difference...maybe 3-4 whp. But if you turn it off at the track, you'll only lose about 1 whp since there's no tension on the AC clutch. I did before and after dynos with the belt on and off and confirmed the 1whp difference. On a daily driver in sweltering NJ summers, it's definitely not worth removing. Get it fixed...it could be a bad relay, not the AC charge...I found that out the hard way. The relay is probably 20 years old and the solder joints crack causing sporadic operation, particularly when it's hot.

As another poster said, it's nearly impossible to see in rain or high humidity without the AC. I kept mine when it was a daily driver. Now that it's going to be primarily a track car, I pulled it out. Not so much for the power diff, but for the weight (about 40lbs). That weight does add up when trying to trim it down for the track. Also, the extra room allows for more flexibility with headers, turbos and such if you're so inclined.

fm

Blacknight117

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Yea, I kinda figured that would be the consensus. I was just getting an idea on what the big deal was people pulling the AC on a dd.

Twenty47

i havent seen it tested on a single cam but other motors lose way more than 3-4whp when the AC is running. Ive seen back to back cars lose 30whp with the AC on.

ive also been told that on an all motor K atleast that the difference between a motor that has AC and PS still attached and one with a k tuned pulley kit or something similar is like 8-10whp..

ehrkeith

If you look around theres a dyno that shows 2whp gain, not worth it IHMO. Whats 2 horsepower if you get out of your car soaking wet and smelling like ****. If you don't want to fix it leave it be, but really its probably just a worn hose or something.

redm3turbo

Losing weight when your sweating your sack off during august?

Silvertune

The AC belt is like a 20 inch and the AC pulley weighs maybe a pound. You'd make a bigger different changing your spark plugs every 3k miles.

MRGRIM

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only advantage is chicks in hot weather have to strip down to keep cool LOL

jbpnoman

You're mixing up how each part removal benefits the motor. The belt/pulley removal benefits power by removing rotating weight, directly affecting rev speeds, as well as power output. The weight factor comes in when you talk about the entire A/C system, which still isn't very heavy, but it weighs a lot more than a pound. Fully (and correctly) removing the A/C system will give your motor a ****hair more power, but the real difference is in the weight reduction.

Still, unless it's a track use car, or you live in a milder climate, I'd keep the A/C.

fungus mungus

It may be more than 3-4whp running, but I find it hard to believe you'd lose 30whp on a B-series or even a K-series. Who races with their AC on anyway?

PS is a bigger deal than AC because it's ALWAYS on. Unless you pull the belt, there's no way to turn off PS...unless you've done an MR2 electric PS conversion. The AC can be turned off with a flick of a switch.

fm

ATLien6

Never made sense to me why guys pull AC from their cars.... Summer = hot / AC = Relief

jbpnoman

Because the brain dyno feels that babydick power gain.

Fester LOD

u loos whate, less peristaltic lose, more room and less heat.

Blacknight117

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Don`t wanna sound like an a$$ but, can someone translate this please ?

jbpnoman

Only two of these things are actually true, and for a DD, they're both completely inconsequential.

Blacknight117

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Haha, now I can read it. But for a dd, it just isnt worth it.

My97CX

If you're from SoCal, where there's really only super winter or super summer, you kind of need a/c.. Or at least that's how it is in my part of LA