Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

another idle issue...d16z6

Old 02-04-2007, 12:02 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 805, CA, US
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default another idle issue...d16z6

ok, so before it was idling at around 2500 when cold and would settle around 1000 once warmed up.

I adjusted the screw a little, and cleaned the valve on the back of the IM(IACV right?) with carb cleaner, I got it to idle around 2100 when cold and 800 when warmed up & was happy that it was back into oem spec.

started it up this morning (about 2-3 weeks after cleaning it ) and it idles at 3000 when started then it starts to "bounce" between 1000-2500....after awhile it settles down to somewhere between 1000-1500 WTF?!?!?!

Is the valve on the bottom of he TB the one that needs to be cleaned?, like I said, I already cleaned the one on the back of the IM. should I just fully remove the TB and clean it all? Replace the vaccum lines? I've got no clue what's going on right now.
Old 02-04-2007, 06:24 AM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
92ehatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Asheville, NC, USA
Posts: 3,884
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (broketuner-Sol_Si)

take the cap off the lower valve, its the FITV

inside there is a round yellow thing. its a thermowax plunger.

take a flat head and CAREFULLY screw that down tight. put the cap back on and test
Old 02-04-2007, 07:08 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
big22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: tx
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (92ehatch)

http://www.ef-honda.com/ben/Badidle.php

good link for idle problems
Old 02-04-2007, 10:32 AM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 805, CA, US
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (92ehatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92ehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take the cap off the lower valve, its the FITV

inside there is a round yellow thing. its a thermowax plunger.

take a flat head and CAREFULLY screw that down tight. put the cap back on and test</TD></TR></TABLE>

the one on the bottom of the TB?
Old 02-04-2007, 02:01 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 805, CA, US
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (broketuner-Sol_Si)

BUMP.
Old 02-04-2007, 02:05 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
biggee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

yes
Old 02-04-2007, 04:13 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 805, CA, US
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (broketuner-Sol_Si)

cool I'll check it out later tonight...after the game of course
Old 02-04-2007, 04:16 PM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
BlackBeastEK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: canada
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (92ehatch)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92ehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take the cap off the lower valve, its the FITV

inside there is a round yellow thing. its a thermowax plunger.

take a flat head and CAREFULLY screw that down tight. put the cap back on and test</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2 same thing happen to me and that fixed the problem just dosent idle as high when its cold but who cares
Old 02-05-2007, 12:15 AM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
broketuner-Sol_Si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: 805, CA, US
Posts: 9,872
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (elementb16a)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92ehatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take the cap off the lower valve, its the FITV

inside there is a round yellow thing. its a thermowax plunger.

take a flat head and CAREFULLY screw that down tight. put the cap back on and test</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I did this and holy ****! it worked!!!!

I can't believe it'd be something SOOOO simple. it now idles @ 1400 rpm on a cold start, no bouncing of any kind, in neutral after a little driving it settles @ a perfect 850 and in general seems to run A LOT nicer. thanks for all the help!

hopefully this will also help me get some better fuel economy too(compared to idiling in the 2-3K range for the first 10 min and then bouncing constantly between 1 & 2K, I'd imagine it would)

For anyone who attempts this here's some advice:
-Be very gentle with the thermo-screw(it'll only go down about 1/4-1/2")
-just replace the 3 gaskets, they're only like 5 bucks and could be part of the problem, if they are old and cracked like mine were

Good luck, fairly simple, just a PITA to get to the middle bolt (closest to the IM) if everything is still in the car....took me a little less than 1hr. start to finish
Old 02-05-2007, 02:11 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
92ehatch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Asheville, NC, USA
Posts: 3,884
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: another idle issue...d16z6 (broketuner-Sol_Si)

glad you got it fixed. for future reference.

crazy idle at cold start, usually FITV, any other crazy idle. can be alot of things, fitv, iacv, vacuum leak, tps out of calibration, failing map sensor, the list goes on

and yes you do have to be very carefull with that yellow wax plunger, its just like a candle, breaks and bends easily
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
the_duce_duce
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
09-19-2009 11:59 AM
Praetor353
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
04-28-2009 03:59 PM
Grnade
Honda CRX / EF Civic (1988 - 1991)
7
05-30-2005 10:18 AM
DsCivicEx
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
9
02-05-2004 02:50 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: another idle issue...d16z6



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:52 PM.