h22HatchEG

K just did an LS swap and it cranks but wont turn over, sprayed a tiny bit of start fluid in the intake and i kicked for a seconds but went back to cranking. My question is, is my firing order right and i found a plug that didnt have a place to hook up and want to see what it is.' the color on the plug wires is Yellow and Red



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Modified by h22HatchEG at 10:03 PM 4/27/2006

schardbody

you getting fire.

cyang08

well on my brother's teg we did a ls swap also. most likely its the sparkplug wires that are out of order. not sure on what the order was its been a while. but just to look at someone's Ls thats run good and use that. but if its not that then make sure timing is correct, check fuel pump, make sure everything is pluged up and about the wire you were talking about, did you use the wire harness that came with the motor or did you use the one from your car???

dthug

check all your grounds

ilu

very first thing you should do is check for spark.

no spark? check your engine wiring harness and grounds, and dizzy.

^ that solved my won't-start-after-swap problem.

judging from your picture it looks like your sparkplugs are out of order. check to see what the firing order is in a haynes manual or something and adjust accordingly.

***EDIT*** i just saw your missing plug. that has to be hooked up. if that's an LS wiring harness there is 100% definetly a place for it to plug into. get under your car and just look everywhere, it's probably just in a tricky spot.

strictly.business

make sure you have the ground wire grounded to the thermostat housing.

enhancedCL9

According to your picture, your firing order is wrong....

track_assassin

if your fireing order is wrong. the motor will shake REALLY bad when ur trying to crank. a lot of times it is a grond wire. also double check your timming on the camgear/crank side too see if ur off. if you know how to do a spark plug test to see if ur getting spark. take a screwdriver and listen to the injecters to see of ur getting gas.

track_assassin

about your extra clilp. dont worry about it. i have one too. just make sure it the right one thats plug on there. there are 2 wirring clips that fit onto the manifold. i forgot which is which but one will make ur car buck really bad when u let off of throttle.

Mike@K-Tuned

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I agree. I know for sure the firing order is wrong. Without giving you a pic this is how you should have the wires on the dist. cap: bottom left #1, bottom right #2, top left #3 and top right #4. When you look across the valve cover the wires are found in this order 4 3 2 1 from left to right. Hope this helps.

h22HatchEG

Thanks fellas, i am about to go check this out, i know i got all my grounds, thanks for verifing the extra plug, there was like no where for it to go.

I am using my Stock EG harness, the motor was switched from OBD2 to OBD0 and now im taking it to OBD1 so its just been a little hassle. Ill let you know how it turns out.. Thanks a ton for the help.

importfan0103

yeah ur firing order is messed
cylinder one wire goes on bottom left the cylinder three top left then cylinder 4 goes on top right and cylinder two goes bottom right

h22HatchEG

Well crap, same thing. I can hear my fuel pump going when i turn my key and i smell gas. Its not shaking as bad but it still acting like it isnt getting spark or maybe fuel, but im not sure. Whats the easiest way to test for spark?

importfan0103

hahaaha u ready for this my favorite have a friend do it or if you have to u do it but you need two people.. unplug the wire for cylinder one and put a screw driver in it and hold on to it if there is spark you will get shocked nothing serious but u will feel it if not hit me back fixed this same problem on my boys b18b two weeks ago

importfan0103

by the way unplug it from the spark plug end so if there is spark going throught he distributor you will get it obvioulsy

Tippyman

Here's the correct firing order. You got it backwards i think...

ProJectCvic

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1483855

h22HatchEG

Aight guys i messed with it for another hour or 2. The timing is fine, we got it to start once and it idled for about 30 seconds and we shut it off and it would start again, only sputtered. So it is getting fuel, spark, and the grounds are good. Now i am just stumped. Everything seems ok, and i think the firing order might be different because i am running an EF dizzy that i converted to OBD1, but i tried all the firing orders. still got nothing. Its cranking fine and it will just sputter. Anyone got an other ideas. I am out of them lol. Oh i also tried different plugs and cleaning the ones that were in it, they were black as hell.

futurefastguy

bumo for helpin this guy gettin his car running.

futurefastguy

bump for helpin this guy get his car running

hatchi

do you have a friend with stock Ls not converted dist?? try one and see if that's your problem

strictly.business

block off air to the throttle body with your haand or have someone do it for you, itll suck fuel into the motor well enough to usually get it started if you have spark and good compression.

boostedek9

I had a problem starting my JDM d15b...and it ended up being my Injectors...just a suggestion and input on my part...it'd crank for days on end but wouldnt turn over

h22HatchEG

Dont think its the dizzy, since it actually started once. It may be the injectors, ill try that i guess as soon as i can find soem others.

EK79

the firing order is off 1.3.4.2 you have the 2 amd 3 sparklug in the wrong place switch them around on the dizzy also check your tranny ground i have had problems with this one several times

good luck