itsnotfast

Car: 97 Civic EX
Engine: LS

I want to keep the power steering in my car and i'm having trouble finding the line I need. I'm trying to run a B pump in my car and can't find the hard line out of a 99-00 SI for the right price. Majestic Honda has them new for $90 and there was a used one on ebay for $80 shipped, this is more than I want to spend.

Can I cut the metal part of the D line and use a compression fitting and attach it to the B line? Would this hold the pressure and last? Should I attempt this myself or should I take it to someone who does hydraulic lines? Any input would be appreciated, thanks.

itsnotfast

Up.

94EG8

Simply reuse the original Civic pump and line and get a P/S pump bracket from a '98 - '01 Integra LS/RS/GS/SE

itsnotfast

98-01 Intagras use a D series pump?

94EG8

'94 - '97 Did too, but there are two different styles of pumps. '92 - '95 Civics and '94 - '97 Integras used to same pump. '96 - '00 Civics and '98 - '01 Integras used the same pump.

cjw_89

are you 100 percent on that :O? not disagreeing just saying.Its good info to know

itsnotfast

Ok, the D pump I have is from a 97 Civic, and the mounts are way closer together than the B bracket. It will bolt up but it has no adjustability. I also have B pumps from a 94 Integra and a 96 Integra and i'm pretty sure they're the same. Also the fitting that bolts to the top of the pump on the D series pump is smaller in diameter in the B series pumps. So basically what are my options? How much pressure does that line actually hold?

94EG8

I can absolutely 100% guarentee you that '94 - '97 Integra and '92 - '95 Civic pumps are the same. I'm currently running a '94 Integra rack, lines, resoirvoir etc, with a D-series pump I had the B-series pump as well, both are the same. I just used the D-series one because it was super clean (came from a low mileage JDM D15B Vtec swap) I haven't personally tried the other but i'm not the first person to state that it works.

What year is the P/S pump bracket on the engine from? Early style pumps have a bracket with 2 slots for the pump bolts, late model versions have 1 hole and one curved slot for the bottom bolt, you can't mix and match new and old pumps and brackets.

hmoobhero

search option helps alot.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/faq-retaining-power-steering-ek-b-series-swap-1822781/

b16 pump, ls top and bottom mount...

NOFX

I don't know about the LS, but I have a '98 Civic EX coupe with a '00 B18C1. It was always important to me that I keep all my options.

FOR POWER STEERING
- B16 power steering pump ($40)
- Original power steering hoses/lines ("free")

FOR AIR CONDITIONING
- D-series a/c compressor (I needed a new one because my stock one was bad - $25)
- '94 del Sol VTEC a/c bracket (only for one year del Sol VTEC btw!) (lists for $160 NEW - 38930-P54-000)

Only pic of the bay I have readily available.



EDIT: Found another one from another angle even though the car wasn't all together.

itsnotfast

The bracket is from a 96 LS, I thin it has the 2 slots. I'll have to check next time I get down to my shop.


I know the difference in the lines. My question wasn't about the differences of the two, it was to see if I can basically make my own.

NOFX

You shouldn't need other lines. Your stock lines, unless damaged, should work.

My B16 pump cost me $40.
I don't get why you need to make your own.

Eran

iTrader: (1)

If you're using an Integra pump, it won't work. You need a 99-00 EM1 (Civic Si) pump to make this work. The 99-00 Si pump uses the same hose fitting as the 96-00 d-series civic pump.

itsnotfast

I was trying to run the LS pump and I was just trying to figure out a way to work with what I have. I was not aware that the 99-00 SI pump uses the same fitting as the D series.

NOFX

Yep. Working just fine in my car.

I can post a cell phone pic of it on my car, which might be a little bit better than the photos I already posted.

itsnotfast

No thanks, not necessary. I'll start my hunt for a B16 pump now. Thank you all.

RareSpirits

You can use a integra pump, from any obd2b integra, or a em1 pump w/ your stock line. You will need b-series upper and lower brackets.

NOFX

Brackets came on my engine. I didn't think any '94-'01 Integras came with manual steering in the US anyway. I don't know why anyone would remove the brackets for sale of the engine.

Plus, according to the thread already linked, the lines on the "OBD2 D-series/EM1" are different from the "OBD1 D-series/OBD1/OBD2 Integra" lines.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1822781