ApolloSpeed

I got a deal on a Glowshift A/F ratio guage from a friend........it should work by just hooking up to my O2 sensor right ??

On a 94 B16a3 DelSol

komat

yes it will work but it be pointless without a wideband

IHateJDM

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ApolloSpeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got a deal on a Glowshift A/F ratio guage from a friend........it should work by just hooking up to my O2 sensor right ??

On a 94 B16a3 DelSol</TD></TR></TABLE>

if by work you mean light up. you need a wideband o2 if you want to actually use it.

b204dr

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if by work you mean light up. you need a wideband o2 if you want to actually use it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you mean you dont like the light show that almost seems like it goes to the music

IHateJDM

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you mean you dont like the light show that almost seems like it goes to the music </TD></TR></TABLE>

the light show is great, but I have this friend that's epileptic...

ApolloSpeed

so basically its pointless ?

Padawan

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Well, some people enjoy the look of the gauges, but when wired to the factory O2 sensor, they certainly aren't useful as any sort of tuning aid.

ApolloSpeed

WHY is it that the factory narrow band won't work ?

my Glowshift instructions say it will work with "all" narrow band sensors

.....will it not even give you a "ballpark" of how your mixture is ?

Turbogixxer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ApolloSpeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.....will it not even give you a "ballpark" of how your mixture is ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it will tell you if you are around 14.7 a/f or not. Thats it.

ApolloSpeed

OK....NOW I'M CONFUSED OR STUPID......

cause why would I need it to tell me anything else?? If it will tell the the A/F ratio...... that's all I wanted to know anyways.

What else were you guys talking about getting out of this ?


Modified by ApolloSpeed at 12:14 AM 8/26/2005

JDM_Ej

But it really won't tell you the A/F ratio. Trust me, its pretty useless.

Wideband =

iaredavid

h-t will do that to you

look, an a/f gauge will "work" with a factory narrowband. it will either register as lean, near 14.7, or rich.

but the way a good a/f gauge is supposed to work, is show you with more accuracy what your a/f ratio really is, more like instead of rich, it'll say 10.4, etc.

all your will gauge do at this point is look nice. or rice, however you take it.

a proper a/f gauge will display a number or at least point to a specific number. the lights are just a bonus. and to use such a gauge, you'd need a wideband o2 sensor.

ek_kid

finally some one can explane something well

ApolloSpeed

ok....first it won't work.

Then it works...

Then it works, but not very accurate...

Then it doesn't work

Then is work with only wideband.....

Then it doesn't work

nota-eg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ApolloSpeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok....first it won't work.

Then it works...

Then it works, but not very accurate...

Then it doesn't work

Then is work with only wideband.....

Then it doesn't work

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iaredavid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h-t will do that to you

look, an a/f gauge will "work" with a factory narrowband. it will either register as lean, near 14.7, or rich.

but the way a good a/f gauge is supposed to work, is show you with more accuracy what your a/f ratio really is, more like instead of rich, it'll say 10.4, etc.

all your will gauge do at this point is look nice. or rice, however you take it.

a proper a/f gauge will display a number or at least point to a specific number. the lights are just a bonus. and to use such a gauge, you'd need a wideband o2 sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Reread what he said.

-The guage you have will give you a basic idea as to whether you are running rich, around 14.7, or lean. No definate number such as "10.78" or "17.21"

-A wideband O2 gives you a definate number in its readout, such as my PLX WB system will read 13.58, 12.48, 11.22, 10.97, ect.

-The sensor you have says it will work with narrowband, meaning it will tell you rich, lean, or stoich; no real tuning numbers.

EG93si

get a clue, it works but not accuratly enough to justify getting it. Rice= have it to have it, tuner= have it to use it (acuratly), yes i will diss even though i can't spell

nota-eg

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Sounds like my friend's accord. He has more EBay on his accord than he does Honda/Acura.

ApolloSpeed

Ok cool......basically I just wanted the A/F ratio to trouble shoot some problems.....and as a "general" idea of my mixture.

It is cool to know that cause a mix that is way lean or way rich I know will hurt an engine!


So i should just be able to "splice" into my narrow band wires to get it to work for what i'm doing, Right ?

nota-eg

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So will ******* with things when you have no idea what you're doing *raises hand* "Me me me me!"

Turbogixxer

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So will ******* with things when you have no idea what you're doing *raises hand* "Me me me me!"</TD></TR></TABLE>

Be nice, he is only asking questions to learn. Everyone has to start somewhere.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ApolloSpeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So i should just be able to "splice" into my narrow band wires to get it to work for what i'm doing, Right ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, but take the readings grain of **** and do not use them for power tuning. The readings are only as good as the 02 sensor.

nota-eg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Be nice, he is only asking questions to learn. Everyone has to start somewhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wasn't trying to be mean to him, I was just letting him know. I've fucked with things on my car that I wish I hadn't because I spend more time figuring out what the **** I screwed up instead of enjoying what I "Fixed".

ApolloSpeed

that's why I'm HERE ! To learn a little I hope