Adding Short Shifter= Harder Shifting?
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Adding Short Shifter= Harder Shifting?
Just installed a Skunk2 Shortthrow on my 93 Si today.
Feels nice, only you gotta put a bit more OOMPF behind the shift to get it into the gear.
Could this be normal? I thought it would be easier? I'm not used to slamming it into gears so maybe thats why i'm a bit uneasy.
On a side note, i used an Energy Suspension bushing kit as well so everything is fresh.
Thanks!
Feels nice, only you gotta put a bit more OOMPF behind the shift to get it into the gear.
Could this be normal? I thought it would be easier? I'm not used to slamming it into gears so maybe thats why i'm a bit uneasy.
On a side note, i used an Energy Suspension bushing kit as well so everything is fresh.
Thanks!
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Just keep driving around a lot...its cuz where the shifter attatches to the linkage, the bolt is too tight. You can either loosen it a little, or just drive around and it will loosen up. If you loosen the bolt too much, the shifter will rattle..happened to me on my Skunk2 shifter.
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it will be harder to shift
torque basics... the length of the rod piviting on a circle is torque.. the smaller the rod, the more torqure required
so short shifters will be harder but the way u sound its too stiff..
btw short shifters dont shift into gears faster... just makes it easier to shift faster
torque basics... the length of the rod piviting on a circle is torque.. the smaller the rod, the more torqure required
so short shifters will be harder but the way u sound its too stiff..
btw short shifters dont shift into gears faster... just makes it easier to shift faster
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Re: (Morning Call)
yeah, like he said, it's a physics basic involving leverage. It's easier to hit a nail into a board with a hammer if you hold it at the end of the handle, instead of the middle.
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u could also try a heavier shift ****. I put it a neuspeed short shifter in a stock gsr shift **** and shifting was very notchy and toughfer than regular. I recently put it a skunk 2 shift **** and shifting was at least 10 times better. shifting in gears was as smooth as butter.
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hahaha Thanks ALOT people!
I don't think it's the "torque" theory, as you have to SHOVE it into the gear. Bolts too tight could definately be my problem. As suggested, i will give it a week or two and see if i need to loosen them.
On a side note, did anyone have to use the Skunk2 spacers provided??? (on an EG)
I didn't need to use any at all............
Again, thanks alot for all the help, HT=
I don't think it's the "torque" theory, as you have to SHOVE it into the gear. Bolts too tight could definately be my problem. As suggested, i will give it a week or two and see if i need to loosen them.
On a side note, did anyone have to use the Skunk2 spacers provided??? (on an EG)
I didn't need to use any at all............
Again, thanks alot for all the help, HT=
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Re: (SlowPokeEg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SlowPokeEg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahaha Thanks ALOT people!
I don't think it's the "torque" theory, as you have to SHOVE it into the gear. Bolts too tight could definately be my problem. As suggested, i will give it a week or two and see if i need to loosen them.
On a side note, did anyone have to use the Skunk2 spacers provided??? (on an EG)
I didn't need to use any at all............
Again, thanks alot for all the help, HT= </TD></TR></TABLE>
if you have the stock SOHC shift linkage, you dont need the spacers. if you havea swap, you need the spacers
I don't think it's the "torque" theory, as you have to SHOVE it into the gear. Bolts too tight could definately be my problem. As suggested, i will give it a week or two and see if i need to loosen them.
On a side note, did anyone have to use the Skunk2 spacers provided??? (on an EG)
I didn't need to use any at all............
Again, thanks alot for all the help, HT= </TD></TR></TABLE>
if you have the stock SOHC shift linkage, you dont need the spacers. if you havea swap, you need the spacers
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Give it a few days. Same thing happened when I installed my B&M with Energy Suspension poly bushings. REALLY tight shifts. It loosened up a little and now it's perfect.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morning Call »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw short shifters dont shift into gears faster... just makes it easier to shift faster </TD></TR></TABLE>
short shifters shorten the THROW of the shift, so yes, you can get into the gear faster by way of less travel between the gears, and having a properly matched/weighted **** AND new bushings will make it easier to shift faster.
short shifters shorten the THROW of the shift, so yes, you can get into the gear faster by way of less travel between the gears, and having a properly matched/weighted **** AND new bushings will make it easier to shift faster.
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ITs normal. I have your exact setup but i have the skunk2 **** also. The weighted **** will help alot and if u aint got it make sure u do. My shifter still rubs my exhaust piping wen im looking for 5th or reverse but that can be fixed by jus lowering the piping. When i first got the shifter yea it was harder to shift. You'll get used to it over time and also u need to allow the bushings to break in. Once mine did the shifting was butter. I drove a friends Si with stock shifter after 5 months of using my shorty and stock feels like **** compared to the skunk2 shorty. It jus takes time to get used to and for the bushings to break in.
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ITs normal. I have your exact setup but i have the skunk2 **** also. My shifter still rubs my exhaust piping wen im looking for 5th or reverse but that can be fix my jus lowering the piping. When i first got the shifter yea it was harder to shift. You'll get used to it over time and also u need to allow the bushings to break in. Once mine did the shifting was butter. I drove a friends Si with stock shifter after 5 months of using my shorty and stock feels like **** compared to the skunk2 shorty. It jus takes time to get used to and for the bushings to break in.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
if you have the stock SOHC shift linkage, you dont need the spacers. if you havea swap, you need the spacers</TD></TR></TABLE>
i had a short shifter on my car before i did a bseries swap. i didnt put it back on yet and was looking to. will i need some kind of spacers where i swapped to b-series linkage? if so what do the spacers look like??
if you have the stock SOHC shift linkage, you dont need the spacers. if you havea swap, you need the spacers</TD></TR></TABLE>
i had a short shifter on my car before i did a bseries swap. i didnt put it back on yet and was looking to. will i need some kind of spacers where i swapped to b-series linkage? if so what do the spacers look like??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXified »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i had a short shifter on my car before i did a bseries swap. i didnt put it back on yet and was looking to. will i need some kind of spacers where i swapped to b-series linkage? if so what do the spacers look like??</TD></TR></TABLE>
bump for a quick answer please or a pic of the spacers
i had a short shifter on my car before i did a bseries swap. i didnt put it back on yet and was looking to. will i need some kind of spacers where i swapped to b-series linkage? if so what do the spacers look like??</TD></TR></TABLE>
bump for a quick answer please or a pic of the spacers
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basically, the "fork" that the shifter attaches to is wider on the b-series linkage than the d-series linkage. the spacer is like a small diameter, thick depth washer to make up for the gap.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dantastic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">basically, the "fork" that the shifter attaches to is wider on the b-series linkage than the d-series linkage. the spacer is like a small diameter, thick depth washer to make up for the gap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
cool thanks, it goes in between the forks tho right?
cool thanks, it goes in between the forks tho right?
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Mike Jones
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Re: (CRXified)
Shifting getting better everday!
Yes, i do have the Skunk 2 ****, and its SWEET!
Thanks for the spacer help as well. As soon as this loosens up i will be suggesting a Skunk2 Shifter to EVERYONE! lol
Yes, i do have the Skunk 2 ****, and its SWEET!
Thanks for the spacer help as well. As soon as this loosens up i will be suggesting a Skunk2 Shifter to EVERYONE! lol
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loosen the bolt holding the shifter rod to the shift linkage. Jack the car up and slowly loosen the bolt, then go into the car and check for appropriate stiffness of the shifter. Tighten/Loosen based on your preference.
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