Scotty B

Anyone running na set ups on their 99-00 civic si's???what components are you using???? what are some whp numbers??

hanson said

just do a search for all-motor...it's not that hard.

ProEater

ive already replied to a few threads like this...do da search

pm me if you have q's but here are some cliff notes to most basic n/a mods on a budget


aem cai
jdm dc 4-1
2.5 high flow cat (or no cat at all) w/ 2.5 piping
ctr intake cam(yes just intake, exhaust is almost identical) or if you have the money buy some more agressive cams
tunable cam gears
vafc and tuning.....

im prolly forgeting a few things but its a start

ABTDer

what about an ITR exhuast cam? i heard CTR intake ITR exhuast is a good combo

ProEater

i havent heard that. could very well be but i thought the stock b16a2 exhaust cam wasnt worth swapping with other oem cams (they are very similiar) unless you were going to upgrade to aftermarket (im prolly wrong but oh well)

Beave0101

The setup for any N/A B16 motor is pretty damn broad. CTR intake and ITR exhaust are the exact same as getting both CTR Intake and exhaust. (And than theres the years that the itr switched to the same cam the ctr uses)

Anyways, what you may want to consider is dropping on a 1.8 liter engine. Persay, an ITR or GSR block(on the gsr block, you will need to up the compression) The head on the B16A2 is the same piece as on the ITR, with different internals and a light P+P job. So, decide on what route cam to go, CTR being the smallest uprgrade. Personally I would go with Skunk2 Stage-I or Toda Spec A cams. More high end, and much more mid-range than the CTRs.
Check out the N/A section on http://www.clubsi.com should also give you some more ideas.
Btw- since you're from mission viejo, all the shops are local to go ask questions @, like brandon at inline4, jeff at importbuilders.......and we have CSI meets all the time

ABTDer

this is HT not ClubSi ... good info though

ciRcuitJerk

ctr intake cam is the same as the 00-01 spec itr intake came....any other itr year before 00 has a less agressive intake cam....exhaust cams are the same....im all motor with basic boltons on my si

TYPEone 4-1
TYPEone B-Pipe
AEM Cai
A/C and P/S removed
Hi-Flow Cat

madtownhonda

ooohh...give me type one B-pipe

ciRcuitJerk

i have to do it ...im a pick *****...here you go

madtownhonda

hmmmm...looks tasty...I might have to buy one tomorrow.

DCStreetHtch

MEOW
-Bryan-

B18C5-EH2

All this talking and not one damn dyno sheet...

Dyno sheet within the next 5 replies or I'm locking this one down.

ProEater

heres a dyno of a stock b16 with i/h/e...


two more dynoes from www.bseries.net

JDM B16A block
Stock B16A PR3 head
ITR valve springs
ITR lost motion assembly
ITR cams
skunk2 cam gears
CTR pistons (~12:1 CR)
DC 4-2-1
open exhaust (little resonator)
ITR intake manifold
stock airbox w/K&N drop in & cold air ducting
stock throttle body
skunk2 ECU
Field SFC-VTEC
balanced bottom end
ITR clutch
Muller aluminum flywheel

182.1 whp (SAE Corrected)
122.9 ft-lb (SAE Corrected)



ported head
ported intake manifold
CTR cams
Stock valves with after-market valve springs
68mm Throttle-body
The motor makes peak power @ 9350rpm. At the drag strip, we shift it at 10,000rpm. The car runs consistent 13.1, but we have recorded a 12.9sec pass (full interior). The interior has recently been stripped, but we haven’t taken her to the strip since

189.6 whp (SAE Corrected)
113.2 ft-lb (SAE Corrected)

B18C5-EH2

You're the man Pro Eater, thanks for some real tech.

sshaikh01

those are nice numbers

00MRSi

Is this motor in a hatch or a 99-00 SI coupe? I didn't see which one.. Very nice #s

ProEater

first dyno is from an Si the other two were in a hatch

00MRSi

Cool.. That's what I thought.. Those times in a PIG COUPE/SI didn't seem right.. I know a guy on this board who has CTR pistons, CTR cams, slightly milled head, JDM 4-1 header, BC Spec II exhaust with hf cat and he runs around a 13.8-13.9 with aprx. 180 whp.. You have nice #s

EB_kid

i like the last two #'s. i'm gettin my B16 in a few weeks and with #'s like that i'm lookin foward to havin it in my hatch.

**EDIT**
Q: what yr hatches and where they stripped in anyway?


[Modified by EB_kid, 11:44 AM 3/6/2003]

ProEater

eg, and if you want those numbers you better have money and a daily driver

AzG35

Here is my best dyno


When I dynoed I had:
182HP, 134Lb-Ft
B16A head, mild P&P
B18C1 Block, PR3 pistons 11.1:1 CR
GSR Cams, ITR Valvetrain
ITR IM
JG 64mm TB
APEXi N1 Catback
APEXi GT Header
APEXi VAFC
P28 ECU w/ Mugen Chip
AEM CAI
B&M FPR

I'm in the process of collecting parts for a new setup. Best time in my 99 Si, 13.7@99.6mph


[Modified by AzSi22, 3:08 PM 3/6/2003]

sshaikh01

Very nice.
thats whats going to be my next project too.

sshaikh01

AzSi22 is that si your daily driver 13 second car???

SuperMan19

lol thas what i'm talking about