wpotter93

New to HT,
wondering if anyone knows about controllers available for the VTEC E or if the regular vtec controllers will work on them
i was looking at a APEXI VAFCII Controller but i need to know will it function correctly.

virgineg6

What are you trying to accomplish?

grumblemarc

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Leave those alone. They are a waste of money.

wpotter93

im trying to get some better power without going the turbo route. i dont know if i could use something like hondata but im sure theres no dyno around here at all. and im bout to throw the intake and header on there soon. so im looking for routes to check in to. a guy at my parts store in town suggested i get a vtec controller and mess with that till i get it where i like it. idk if its gonna do much anyways. any suggestions?

fleabag

manually engaging the vtec will not give you more power. If you want a faster car, I suggest you sell the car you have and get something else because you would be wasting your time and potentially devaluing your car.

Wrona

vtec controllers are junk the guy at the parts store is an idiot simply said lets move on if u want a faster honda it is not going to happen w/o money

Blacknight117

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+1....Also your engine will become less reliable as time goes on...

Red_Army

start learning how to street tune. and no big step ups in changes.

wpotter93

well as of right now i cant sell my car. its my only means of transportation.
so should i go with something like a hondata s100 or something

fleabag

He's got a lean-burn engine, I don't think he should be messing with engine tunes considering his lack of experience and the fact that he is likely to do more harm than good.

wpotter93

i agree with ya
im really likely to mess something up being how my luck is and really i would have no clue where to start
so im gonna leave the street tuning deal alone and just find some regular odds and ends to help it perform a little better and look good and leave the ecm like it is for now

virgineg6

You have the economical version of the civic, D series engines dont respond well to performance parts your better off getting the EX model

Wrona

dont touch the a civic if you want something fast or atleast not an HX

NotAJDMFanBoy

If you want to control it through the ECU, get Hondata or look into if Chrome or one of the other tuning softwares can control nitrous or something because then you could tune the computer to engage the 1st vtec point that way, and then the 2nd would be engaged like normal VTEC.

wpotter93

yeah
does something like hondata s100 have to be done with dyno or is that just an option
cause on some of the forums ive read about it sounds like it learns what the car is doing and continues to improve everytime you run the car
but idk i aint messed with none of that stuff yet

Kidnkorner

Do you have a payment on this car? The number 1 reason to skip on modifying the car is its your bread and butter vehicle and imagine how things would go if you had to drop cash on repairs to fix what you broke or worse yet, disable the vehicle preventng you from going to work.

No you should leave the car alone, but you're going to do what you want to do. S100/200/300 only work on OBD1 ECUs and your car is a OBD2 ECU. You'd have to buy a conversion harness and a P28 ECU, and have the Hondata unit installed and taken to a tuner to have it tuned. Tuning brings together what you have done to your car, all of that would be pointless as your car is 1) completely stock 2) the fuel economy model 3) your budget is probably less that $500. BTW all that I mentioned, if done the right way, will cost $1200 easy, all to pick up 10whp if you are lucky.

My advice, get a book called "the total money makeover", leave your car alone and pay it off and save up for a car that's worthy of modifying.

What I know you will do is ignore me and spend wastefully for negligible gains and devalue your vehicle. With that said, stick with a nice wheel/tire package, eibach sportline springs, intake, cat back exhaust and some quality stereo upgrades.

Goodluck

Wrona

this guy is like every other person that just gets a honda and thinks its a rocket he doesnt listen

the car has been designed to be economical its pointless to spend cash on it its like trying to modify the D17

dude sell the car and trade it for something else or swap it cause you seriously are going to f*ck your S*it up

swap the car and thats pretty much it or dont drive a honda cause it isnt a sports car as u think it is

B18C EG6

Waste of time and money tuning that engine.
Please don't bother.
They havn't enuff power to begin with.
Just drive it to work til you can afford a conversion
or a faster model. Not trying to put down your **** but
thats really is the way it is..................

wpotter93

i gotcha
i was just wandering how the tuners and stuff worked i didnt know if they all had to go to a dyno
i do bodywork im not a freakin mechanic so i got a lot of room to learn
cars payed off by the way but i am gonna do a swap when i can afford it or get a diff car one of the two

fleabag

the car is rare, I'd imagine selling it to someone who has a long commute would make more sense (good gas mileage).

Kista20

To get more performance you would be better off finding an ex tranny, the y5 is a good motor just not many people have or even understand them because they are rare. There has been a few people over the years on here with turbo y5's. The main hurdle is how the camshaft is designed along with vtec engagement and that noone makes an aftermarket replacement camshaft.

Spade has some really good articles if you search for them.

jdmeg6118

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KEEP YOUR GAS SAVEING MOTOR STOCK

wpotter93

well i went today to a shop that specializes in honda repairs today
they are gonna swap me out with a b16 and go from there

Wrona

let me guess 2.5-4k of work and parts huh?

wpotter93

about three but i got some time to work up and save a lil before i drop it in there
for the money i figured it be better off than effin up the rest of the stuff in my hx

i do have the opportunity to go either b16 or gsr motor but idk which is best
im thinkin itd be better to have vtec than the extra horses from the gsr but i aint decided
any opinions