Plan B

Okay, i found a killer deal on a full 4 wheel 00 Si brake set up.

I'm getting all the brake lines, e-brake cables, etc.

He told me the proportioning valve is still on the car, so in addition to that, what else should i get before i do this brake swap.

-brian

JDM R

that should be all you need

Plan B

what about the master cylinder, is there a difference.

Plan B

and simply for the reason that picture threads get way more replies, here is the car.

sinister2c

you should only need the rear setup. I beleive the front is the same size between the ex and si. If you can get the booster and MC it should be bigger and the portional valve would be useful but not needed.

Plan B

Well, i'm buying the complete brake setup, including all front suspension, so i'll be putting on an energys suspension master kit in the process as well.

-brian

Vero

does you're EX have ABS on it now? just curious to wether it does or not.

kommon_sense

You do of course know that your front brakes on your ex are identical to those on the 99-00 si right? same spindles, rotors, calipers, booster, master cylinder, etc.... Only thing of value in the 4-wheel setup is the prop valve, e-brake cables, and rear disc setup.

SloCivicHMM

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Plan B

yeah, but my current setup does not have earls lines, powerstop rotors, and AEM pads.

colinproctor

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haha, your so right

pdiggitydogg

just a prop and the rear arms w/ rotors and calipers is needed
fronts are the same parts

ruthless013

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this is all true. but, if you're getting ALL of the front suspension from the si, including the front lca and the shock fork, then you can run the si front sway instead of your ex. if you get those parts, then get an es master set for an si not an ex, because the front lca bushings are different (don't ask how i know). and the prop valve isn't required, but you may as well do it since you'll be flushing the fluid.

6ghatch

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You don't need the porp valve... It's the same.

CIVIC_PR

prop valve is not the same. check the part#

6ghatch

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Honda proportioning valves only separate diagonally for safety reasons. Right front to left rear, and left front to right rear. This way if one of the hard lines from the M/C is damaged you will only loose one front and one rear brake. They are not front to rear proportioning!

Either way you won't hurt anything to change it, you may just not need to. On my EK the part #'s were the same to the 99-00 SI.

kommon_sense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ruthless013 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is all true. but, if you're getting ALL of the front suspension from the si, including the front lca and the shock fork, then you can run the si front sway instead of your ex. if you get those parts, then get an es master set for an si not an ex, because the front lca bushings are different (don't ask how i know). and the prop valve isn't required, but you may as well do it since you'll be flushing the fluid.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would you want the bigger 26mm sway? Who wants more understeer? Unless you have an oversized rear and need it to balance out the car. Also the SI prop valve is not the same as the EX prop valve. I've checked the part numbers...


Modified by kommon_sense at 4:19 PM 7/18/2004

ruthless013

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Why would you want the bigger 26mm sway? Who wants more understeer? Modified by kommon_sense at 4:19 PM 7/18/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes, yes, those honda engineers must be retarded.

bigger front sway + bigger adjustable aftermarket rear sway (comptech) and/or stiffer rear springs = better handling.