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Old 04-24-2018, 03:05 PM
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Default 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

So I gotta d16y7 .needed a head gasket so I changed it and now it won't rev past 3k ...no CEL full of oil and water and timing is perfect ...what could I have done wrong? Compression is 145+ each cylinder
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Not going over 3k is a classic symptom of the cam timing being a tooth late. Put the ECU test jumper in and set spark timing with a light. If the spark timing can't be brought in within the adjustment range, the timing belt is on wrong.
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Oh hell well I don't have a light ,the marks line up perfectly though....hrmmm ....which way should I move it? The distributor is rotated forward or toward the bumber all the way to idle smoothly,it's not centered like I'd guess it should be
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Get a timing light. Anyone who works on a car that has adjustable timing is going to need it at some point.
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Yea true ,ight I'ma go get one,I knew better anyway but I wanted to ride..!!!! Lol.... be back later with results..!!!..soon as this darn rain quits smh.
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

okay so I set the timing light up and I had to turn it to 24 degrees to get the line to line up when it was idling what's up with that?

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Old 04-24-2018, 04:31 PM
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Smh....harbor freight timing light is a no go...it just randomly stoped working and I literly just got here with it. ..dang it ima go Wal-Mart I guess get another one
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

Invest in a quality brand or pay more in the long run and time wasted.
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Yea true AutoZone is $100 man that's crazy, hrmm ima just back it up a tooth tonight see what happens, hell it Can t get worse lol
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

According to my cen-tech code reader at idle timing is at12.0 @700rpm and 185 temp ...i dunno how accurate this thing is but I'd imagine purty dang close

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A scanner can't read the timing. It's only advising you how to set it. You need a timing light.

* Test jumper must be in place. The CEL should be on steady when you start the engine. If it is out, you don't have the jumper properly connected. If it is blinking codes, resolve the codes before proceeding.
* If the light has a dial, set it to zero and forget that it has a dial.
* Line up on the triple mark on the crank pulley. Usually the center one of the three is used.
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

Ok got a light ,under the hood says 12.0 degree timing. ..where does a jumper wire go? Man I'm new to these Honda's lol
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Passenger right kick panel. Blue plug, 2 pin.
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

Ok cool I'm about to check that out and try It,I just used my timing light without doing that and it's at 10.0 degree, also i had to switch my plug wires cause it keeps skipping a flash or not even flashing at times with the #1 wire, kinda weriod but I put #3 wire in place of #1 and it flashes like it should...wth up with that? I need wires?
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Ok did the wire jump ,check engine light came on and I set it ...dead nutz...., then shut off motor removed jumper wire and started it up ,still the same ...but now I know for sure I have it in timing. .ima go buy some wires tomro and try that I reckon ..thanks
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

So the wife has an accord I just tried her plug wires and smh....nothing still same ...so I'm completely lost at this point, the only info that I left out is that I didn't have the head decked, but it ran just fine before and I never ran it hot so i figured itd be fine maybe that wasn't a good idea? This thing has beat me I've tried about everything under the sun and still will not going past 3k, I don't get it, it's really frustrating at this point..
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

Did you have the lead clipped on the #1 plug wire (the one closest to the belts) in the right direction?
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

What do you mean direction?..i had it clipped on #1 wire yea
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The lead should say “plug” and have an arrow on it. Make sure the arrow is pointing to the spark plug.
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

ok dang didn't see that lol, I'll check it when I get off work today
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It should be similar to this.
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

Say i did have it backward would that cause it to read a different timing? Or just skip when it flashes?
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

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Say i did have it backward would that cause it to read a different timing? Or just skip when it flashes?
I’ve never hooked one up backwards, so I don’t know what to tell you there.
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Default Re: 97 civic lx won't rev past 3k.!!!

Thanks man I did have it backward lol,so tried it the right way and the timing shows perfect I'm at a loss at this point so I'm just going to remove the head and start all over thanks for the help
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I wouldn’t pull the head back off just yet. Do you have a scanner that can run graphs? It’d be a good idea to check the graph of the throttle position sensor (TPS), with the engine off and key on, by slowly depressing and slowly releasing the accelerator pedal while watching the TPS graph.

Also, this is a stupid question, but it happened to me years ago on a Dodge pickup... Do you have the throttle cable properly adjusted? If it’s not, the flap in the throttle body (TB) won’t open completely. Can you check to see if you can move the throttle linkage at the TB by hand and if that will allow it to rev higher?


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