OGKoopa.

Im am looking to purchase a ek hatch but it doesnt have the crash bar will that effect anything?
What are the pros and cons about this?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

What's a crash bar?

pwebb0207

dont crash?

OGKoopa.

The blue bar in the civic thats the 1st picture.

OGKoopa.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...ight=crash+bar

OGKoopa.

Fixed

virgineg6

you mean the actual bumper? (not the bumper cover!)
pro- car weighs like 10 lbs less or however much that thing weighs.
con- the car is done if you ever hit anything! really not recommended its really dangerous.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Buy missing parts and replace them. There are no Pros to it being missing.

pwebb0207

Without it, even a light bump could take out your condenser and radiator.

NOFX

The "crash bar" or bumper beam, as I call it in order to lessen confusion on if we're talking about the plastic bumper cover... helps protect you and your car in the event of a collision.

Replace it with a used part. I'm not sure if a '99-'00 will fit on a '96-'98 or visa versa, but all bodies from each year span should be the same.

OGKoopa.

Ok well sorry for confusion, but the word he(Guy who is selling the shell) said it was crash bar and said the car never had on. so thats why i said crash bar. But yeah the bumper beam can some one explain it to me. And how much would one cost and how to put it on etc etc anything i need to know. and Is it Worth it?

NOFX

Call around to junkyards in your area. I know a '96-'98 Civic (coupe, hatch or sedan) will fit on a '97 Civic with no problem.

I would expect anywhere from $30 and up.

Think of it this way... if you were to bump another car would you rather you had paid $30+ to save your frame or would you have rather saved that $30 or more and have a totaled car?

OGKoopa.

and i also plan on going 99-00 front should i just get the 99-00 bar?

NOFX

I'm not sure if they're any different, but I'd put the bar in ASAP.

THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE.

You might as well drive around without seatbelts because the car didn't come with them and you plan to get Recaros.

b18EK6

I bought my 96 hatch without one either. I bought one new for somewhere around 50 bucks I believe (I don't remember where from)

Crashtestdummy

Its called a bumper reinforcement, you need it, without it if you hit something you won't have any protection.

hondamark35

the only "crash bar" i can think of that didn't come on '96 and some '97 model years is the reinforcement beam under the rear seat cushion.


the three parts circled in red bolt together and to the floor under the seat cushion creating a brace between the left and right B-pillar. this helps keep the car from folding up like a soda can in the event of a side impact. it also adds a little weight. not much though.

i survived a side impact in my '96 without injury. speeds were low, but like the OP mentioned this model year didn't have these parts from the factory.

edit: looking back at that image the outline i drew for the beam location is wrong. it should be at the front edge of that rear floor section.

OGKoopa.

^^^ Where did ou get that picture from? Thanks i think i might get it. i talked him down too 300 its only missing sideskirts front back bumper headlights and interior and the engine has NOTHING not a wire. would that be a problem or would buying a complete motorswap from like HMotorsonline or something fix that and get it running right?

NOFX

As far as I'm aware, all '96 and '97s don't have the rear seat safety gusset (three piece, 21 pounds total). The shop manual mentions it being new for the '98 model year iirc. I have it mentioned in the trim differences thread under the tables.

OGKoopa., if you look in the FAQ you'll see there's a link to a thread with several sites that sell OE parts.

HondaPartsDeals.com, for example.

For a large bumper beam it would likely be cheaper (once you include shipping) to get it locally, especially if you buy it new and just repaint it if it bothers you.

hondamark35

Most of the online OE Honda parts sites have these pics so you see what you're buying. this came specifically from Hondapartsunlimited.com then i cropped and added the red lines in MSPaint..

94eg!

iTrader: (2)

If the front bumper beam may be missing for a reason. If the car was in a wreck, and that part was destroyed, it could have also ruined the parts of the frame that it mounts to. You need to look really close at this chassis if you plan on buying it.

The front bumper beam is part for #4 is 71130-S01-A01ZZ and cost $115 new. There is also a foam piece that goes over it part #9 is 71170-S00-A01 for $57 new. You will aslo need 4 of the #26 bolts. I might also check ebay or car-part for used ones if you don't have a junk yard near by.

Here is a link to the diagram for it (set for a 97 DX hatchback):

http://www.hondapartsnow.com/Page_Pr...ageName=Bumper

OGKoopa.

im Talking about part 9 shown above.

OGKoopa.

And the guy said tha the only frame damage is that the radiator support is bent a little.

OGKoopa.

Does anybody have a picture of a 96-98 front with no bumper and head lights, so i can see the frame and compare?

NOFX

Number 9 is just a piece of white foam. Number 4, behind it, is the metal bumper beam ("crash bar").

This is a bumper support / bumper beam. A piece of white foam clings to the front of it, and helps protect the bumper cover (the plastic that you normally see on the front of the car) from being damaged in low speed impacts. It probably does some very light cushioning for the rest of the car as well.



All the pieces for the front end should be in the pic posted above btw.