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Old 01-31-2015, 04:34 PM
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Hello i replaced the lower ball joints on my 97 civic after i took it for a test drive my steering was kinda hard especialy when i turn i feel it gets stuck to the side i turn too
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Did you use a torque wrench?
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Did you use a torque wrench?
For wat part?
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During the job, did you use a torque wrench to tighten ANY of the nuts or bolts. If so, which ones?
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Not using a torque wrench wont cause hard steering. No one in the real world torques front end parts, it's all done with an impact gun.

OP, how did you install the ball joints? If you beat them in with a hammer and hit them in the center you've ruined the new ball joints.
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Not using a torque wrench wont cause hard steering.
Are you saying that if all three castle nuts on the hub are torqued to say 85 ft-lbs, there would be no effect on steering? I'm doubtful.

No one in the real world torques front end parts, it's all done with an impact gun.
This^ is clearly an exaggeration. I am part of the real world, and I torque suspension nuts and bolts. I would recommend anybody who is not a highly experienced mechanic to do the same. Some nuts and bolts should be torqued with the weight of the car on the suspension.
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Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Are you saying that if all three castle nuts on the hub are torqued to say 85 ft-lbs, there would be no effect on steering? I'm doubtful.
That's what I'm saying. I've always cranked them on at well above what they're supposed to be torqued to with an impact gun. You'll strip the thread or break the stud before you end up with any sort of binding issues. The way the taper works it's just not possible to have the steering bind or steer hard from over-tightening those nuts.

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This^ is clearly an exaggeration. I am part of the real world, and I torque suspension nuts and bolts. I would recommend anybody who is not a highly experienced mechanic to do the same. Some nuts and bolts should be torqued with the weight of the car on the suspension.
In both shops I've worked in (one being an actual Honda dealership) we never torqued anything other than wheels, oil drain plugs and filters (only because Honda gave us the preset torque wrenches to do it) and obviously anything like head bolts. I've always tightened suspension bolts with the weight on the wheels, but I still do it with an impact gun. Accurate torque just isn't important here. Nothing will warp or leak due to being over or under tightened.
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That's what I'm saying...Accurate torque just isn't important here.
I'm just not sold. You haven't said how tightly you torqued the nuts/bolts, and Honda clearly specifies torque values for all of them. And I also think it's irresponsible to tell mechanically inexperienced people to toss the idea of using a torque wrench for car work.
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I'm just not sold. You haven't said how tightly you torqued the nuts/bolts, and Honda clearly specifies torque values for all of them. And I also think it's irresponsible to tell mechanically inexperienced people to toss the idea of using a torque wrench for car work.
I'm not necessarily saying using a torque wrench is bad idea or a waste of time, but it will not, can not cause the problem the OP is having.
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I personally torque everything to spec. People always give me flak for it, but i find the satisfaction of it being "done right" its own reward. Even if it doesn't cause problems.
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