CPreston

what are my options as far as easy engine swaps into my civic.. it has a b20 in it right now.. are my only options b18 and b20 without wiring vtec up? its a cx so there are no vtec wires

mrharmonic

dude just buy a vtec head wire up to your high beems lik everyone else does.

CPreston

is that a joke that i dont understand

noremorseracing

do a lsvtec swap or b20 vtec swap its easy and affordable.. im bout to do a poorman type-r for 1200 bux roughly

Vindicator9000

Yes.

It's not that hard to add vtec wiring. If that's all you're worried about, don't.

jhammond_82

iTrader: (1)

i'm still lost as to why you would swap a b20 out for a b20. if there's nothing wrong with the one thats in there, leave it alone and just go b20/vtec. look in the faq for some links with how to's in there.

noremorseracing

they have a vtec subharness on evay for 35 bux i had a cx before, u just put it into your harness its 3 wires easy as hell... anyway the b20/vtec kit is like $175 and then all u need is a b16 head or a gsr head, so less then like 800 bux ur done plus like a day in the garage if u do it rite

blkcivic310

or you could always buy a gsr b18c1 its a good strong motor and highly moddable

Allmotor-R

PRETTY MUCH you can swap anything in the hatch the question is how much money you willing to spend you can swap k24 with all the parts to make it work for 5000 grand whole swap and make 200whp without the k2o head

then again you have b18c5 gsr swap b20/vtec

my thing is if you doing it, do it right first time and be safe with it !! people go back and forth cuz they dont know what they want out of it in future..

the question is that you need to ask yourself is how much power you looking for and how much money you willing to spend!!

Me personaly if you looking to spend 5000 grand buy k24 550 whole swap and then go from it you wont regret it!!

blkcivic310

^^^agree if you got the cash shoot kswap pushin just about 200 all stock thats a hit or their the monster H22

Adamvanxxx

I am all for H22, I have a 95 cx and I think for the money and power its well worth it. Or just search junkyards my buddy got a k20 with tranny for 1200 at a local junkyard. Just wait and search for the perfect time.

noremorseracing

x2 on that i also have a h22a n a 92 dx

newtron63h

my vote is b20 with b16 or GSR head. build for N/A or boost either way it has PLENTY of potential.

noremorseracing

that is the easiest way out, and cheapest, momma always told me tho if it aint broke dont fix it

Laz's EP

iTrader: (1)

Since the B20 is on just swap the head and find someone to wire the vtec wire(If you cant do it yourself)

noremorseracing

all you need is a vtec subharness its 35 bux on ebay for those who dont wanna or know how to wire stuff up

fatpride111

First off, it does not cost 5,000,000 (5mil) to do a k24 swap in the sense that youre writing '5000grand' (five thousand grand??). PLUS, if he had that much cash, why not just do a K20A2 swap. That'd be more than enough to get him around, plus he wont have to worry about doing a k24/k20 build, which he wont be able too from his lack of knowledge in swaps (not making fun, its just not easy to work on K-series)

B18c5 = type r engine, not GSR.
b18c1 = GSR

For the same amount that he spends on the K24 swap, He could have 2 professionally built b20/vtecs that would pull that k24 and still have money left over. Its not a matter of how much power you want, you can make any amount of power from any engine. Its mostly about money, If you have a >$1000 budget, do a b20/vtec. Anymore, and you can have the block built for boost, or have a Vtec head built for N/a with some aggressive cams, and a nice tune.

First, Id say worry about security, suspension, and getting your car up and running healthy (if not already) THEN do a swap. I cant tell you how many people I see with junkyard EG's that have **** falling apart, broken headlights, and dented fenders yet, they insist on doing a $1500 swap when theyre car cant even ride properly.

Deetz

Here's an aswer for more power that is often over looked!!

Why not source out a PR8 cylinder head....the big bad non vtec b20 head that bolts on with no extra wiring, and yet flows the same as a vtec head and comes oem with 33mm valves!

From there, you could cam it up, or even go with a cheap used JR charger or turbo setup....endless options

RCurioso88

instead of going b20vtec, i say go boost. About the same amount of money but yields more horses. Better bang for your buck. I agree with fatpride111 though, make sure its a car worth swapping into before you do anything motor-wise.

fatpride111

If youre going through the trouble of buying a head, and installing it, then just do it a PR3 head. Only difference is you get much more power, and you have to wire up 3 wires.

woopty ****ing do.

fatpride111

I believe B20's dont handle boost very well as theyre sleeves are thinner due to the 84mm bore.

CPreston

the b20 thats in it is knocking. and i have another b20 in the garage thats why i was asking.

noremorseracing

if u have an extra b20 just build it b20 vtec its like 1k

wittlle_civic

yeah you should do a b20 vtec that would be dsick as hell i have a built b18 ls vtec in an ek and my buddy had a built b20 non vtec and he will beat me so a b20 with vtech would be dope

thumper64

To wire VTEC in, you only need to run 2 wires through the firewall. It's easy, even if you tuck it into the harness that's already there