CBURKE

I have ordered pads 3 times now from summit. I got some new cross drilled rotor's and when I went to put the pads on they where wrong. So I went ahead and went to Auto zone and asked if they had any carbon metallic pads? He said yes. So I took them home and they were wrong too. They were a little smaller and the ends were wrong. So I took them back and took the old one with me and non of them matched up. I know the Ex has Nissn calipers but WTF is the deal here? Is the caliper wrong? I have been doing my own brakes for yr's, so what is the problem here? Any help would be gratefull.


Modified by CBURKE at 6:05 AM 9/26/2005

jdmgoldcivic

ON MY 1993 civic ex i had the same problem i just went to autozone and ordered 1994 integra ls pads and they worked

Targa250R

There are 2 different front calipers for the '92-95 EX. One caliper is for cars with ABS (all EX sedans and some EX coupes), and one caliper is for cars without ABS (some EX coupes). It is actually common for the big chain parts stores to have the wrong calipers and pads listed for the non-ABS cars; I've seen it happen many times.

The caliper for the EX w/ABS is the same caliper found on '94-01 Integras (except Type-R), and takes a pad with FMSI number D617. The caliper for the EX non-ABS is the same caliper found on the '94-97 del Sol VTEC, and takes a pad with FMSI number D621.

If your EX has factory rear discs, you have ABS. If your EX has rear drums, you do not have ABS.

Hope this helps.

CBURKE

I cked them too and they where the same part #. Man this sucks!!!

Did you have a clip holiding your bads together from the inside of the caliper?

CBURKE

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are 2 different front calipers for the '92-95 EX. One caliper is for cars with ABS (all EX sedans and some EX coupes), and one caliper is for cars without ABS (some EX coupes). It is actually common for the big chain parts stores to have the wrong calipers and pads listed for the non-ABS cars; I've seen it happen many times.

The caliper for the EX w/ABS is the same caliper found on '94-01 Integras (except Type-R), and takes a pad with FMSI number D617. The caliper for the EX non-ABS is the same caliper found on the '94-97 del Sol VTEC, and takes a pad with FMSI number D621.

If your EX has factory rear discs, you have ABS. If your EX has rear drums, you do not have ABS.

Hope this helps.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow thanks I'll try that. Could the holding clips be the problem or are they all the same?

:edit: Ok, I called Auto zone back and the carbon pads they have for the EX is part # 0273-02 so I said check the 94-95 del sol and the # is the same. Any other suggestion's?


Modified by CBURKE at 7:33 AM 9/26/2005

Targa250R

The only other thing I can suggest is to order OEM pads from Honda, or order some other pads from a reputable online source such as Tire Rack or Cobalt Friction. Auto Zone obviously has some issues with their parts catalog.

CBURKE

I called the dealer and they said there pads are the same for ABS and NON-ABS. But I will be useing cross driled, do I need to be useing Carbon? Or can I just use the factory? Man I have never had such a time with brakes.


Modified by CBURKE at 7:58 AM 9/26/2005


Modified by CBURKE at 7:59 AM 9/26/2005

CBURKE

I think I am gonna try the AEM pads and see if they fit.

Targa250R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBURKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I called the dealer and they said there pads are the same for ABS and NON-ABS.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That is definitely wrong. Sounds like whomever you spoke to on the phone was too lazy to actually look it up in the parts catalog, because the pad sets for ABS vs. non-ABS have different part numbers (45022-ST7-020 for ABS vs. 45022-SR3-V03 for non-ABS).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But I will be useing cross driled, do I need to be useing Carbon? Or can I just use the factory? Man I have never had such a time with brakes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Drilled rotors have no effect on braking whatsoever. The pads are what make the difference. OEM pads are made for low-stress daily driving and have a low coefficient of friction so they have poor bite, and a low operating temperature range so they fade easily, but they wear slowly and dust very little. A high-performance autocross pad such as the Axxis Ultimate, Hawk HP+ or Cobalt GT-Sport has a much higher coefficient of friction so it has excellent bite, and a broader operating temperature range so it won't fade as quickly, but these will wear quickly and dust excessively and may cause some noise. Good midrange pads - that are more aggressive than stock but not as extreme as the autocross pads - would be AEM, Axxis MetalMasters, or Hawk HPS.

I had a set of AEM pads on my '93 EX coupe (non-ABS), among the many other pads I have tried. I know AEM has a D621 application, so you should be able to get the proper pads for your car.

CBURKE

cool, thanks i am going wed to pick up the AEM pades.