bencivic

i have a B16A swap in my 94 civic coupe and i have a chipped ecu in it now but im needing to get Hondata for it soon when i have the money. my question is, what kind of hondata would i need? the S300? since its a 3 stage motor?

grumblemarc

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How is it a 3 stage motor?

bencivic

thats what i was told its the JDM edition, i have a chipped ECU in it now and when i get on it when i get into about 3rd gear my check engine light comes on so im a lil confused and trying to figure this out.

grumblemarc

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So what code is getting thrown? Maybe you should work on that or possibly just get the correct ECU for the engine.

BryanM.

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3 stage JDM edition B16A? I think I'm confused.

What engine modifications does it have?

bencivic

the check engine light is coming on when i get on it around 3rd gear and then when i shut the car off and turn it back on its gone like it resets it self but when the check engine light comes on i loose my vtec for some reason. thats why im asking cause i was told it was a 3 stage and i dont know im confused my self so i was seeing if i could get some help. i was told jdm edition B16A and that its a 3 stage motor and not a 2 stage. i have full exhaust, intake, intake manifold new, and the chipped ECu

Former User

When CEL comes on, leave engine running while you jump the service connector. Read the CEL sticky.

And please use punctuation in your posts. It's difficult to understand what you want to say otherwise.

Hidenplanvew

3 stage lol... On a honda what does that mean?? I know what it means in subi talk ... Im so lost

xzachrickx

not sure what stage 3 motor means but the CEL problem definitley a bigger concern. you need to find out why is coming on first then try to firger out what stage you motor is.

Sr420Det

what jon means to say is, jump the two prong connector located above your ecu with a paper clip or wire. When u do this the check engine light will flash a code. Long flashes =10sand short flashes=1s. You take the code down and go look it up or tell us on here. I also think u should just get the proper ecu for the motor and not chipped junk. as for the hondata, its overkill for u but yes the s300

Wrona

3 stage motor? the only thing i know is 3-Stage Vtec in the D15B Vtec Hondata S300 will be good for th emotor just make sure to get the right map on it

Pull the code have someone jump the connector while you are sitting in your driveway holding the clutch and brake and put it into 3rd

bencivic

ok cool thanks a bunch guys yeah i am going to figure out what codes its throwing now but yeah i was looking at the S300 on hondata today and i think thats what im ganna get. but ill check the codes and figure out whats going on and let everyone know. and i dont know maybe i heard my friend wrong about the 3 stage thing cause now i feel like a dumbass haha im sure im wrong cause all you guys seem very confused.
thanks for your help everyone.

bencivic

and the weird thing about the check engine light is, that it only comes on when i get on through first and second and then going into third it comes on until i restart the car its very confusing so i dont know if i would be able to check the code that way since it doesnt stay on the whole time but im ganna check asap

Solster

I think he is trying to say it's a 3 stage vtec-E from the d15b but he keeps saying B16 and Not D16

D15B 3-Stage VTEC

Found in: 1995–1998 Honda Civic Ferio Vi (EK3, Japanese market) Bore and Stroke :75,0×84,5 mm
Displacement : 1,493 cc (91.1 cu in)
Rod Length : 137 mm
Rod/Stroke : 1.62
Compression : 9.3:1
Power : 130 PS (96 kW; 128 hp) at 7,000 rpm [2]
Torque: 139 Nm at 5,300 rpm
VTEC 12-valve to 16-valve switch over : 3,000 rpm (below 3,000 rpm the engine is operating in 12-valve mode)[3]
VTEC high cam switch over : 6,000 rpm
Redline : 7,200 rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC, four valves per cylinder
Connecting rod length : 137 mm
Connecting rod big end diameter : 48 mm
Fuel Control : OBD2a
Head Code : P2J-07
ECU Code: P2J (small case ECU)***

Red_Army

we know what a jdm d15B is.
but look at your keyboard. how close is D15B to B16A? not very huh?

some people just believe what they're told. this isn't need for speed engines don't go in stages. its a b16a. you lose vtec because the MIL is on. fix that then worry about getting it chipped. at which you should get neptune.

Hidenplanvew

He needs to find a tuner first and see what he wants to tune on over what people on the internet are telling him.

Maybe he was telling him about a stage 3 clutch and the OP was in a F&F day dream lol

bencivic

my friend said its a 3 stage v-tech on my B16a, so im still a little confused the way he explained it, so im still a little confused. but ill have to take it somewhere that can read it through the computer because the CEL goes off when i turn the car off.

xzachrickx

take a pic of you motor and post it so we can tell you what you have lol. if the light stays of when you restart the car, then it is a soft code. meaning that it isnt a big problem (most of the time). but it sounds like it is your o2 sensor possible

jbpnoman

3 stage vtec (not v-tech, that's an electronics company) simply means that there are three different possible cam/valve combinations. Usually, step 1 is 1 1/2 intake valves opening for economy, step 2 is 2 intake valves opening, and stage 3 is 2 intake valves opening on a more aggressive lobe. It doesn't mean you have to get S300, it just means tuning it will be even more entertaining for the poor bastard who has to deal with it. There, now you know what "3 stage vtec" means.

If the CEL only comes on when you hit third while driving, go for a drive on a road that you KNOW you can safely pull off on. Once you hit third and the CEL comes on, don't turn off the car, just pull the code.

Red_Army

thats nice and all but as far as i know b16a do not have 3 stage vtec.

or have a friend ride with and have him put the clip in while your driving and it pops up.

bencivic

ok sounds good and i know its vtec lol i was on my phone and it would change it and i just didnt notice but ok sweet man thanks for the help and everything. ill check out all my possibilities and and let everyone know how it turns out. and you say i dont need an s300? i can just tune the one i have now and be ok?

jbpnoman

I don't even know what you have now, so I can't say yes or no to that. Honestly, I don't even think we know for sure if you have a D16 or a B16B. Can you clarify that for us?

xzachrickx

pic?????????

grumblemarc

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What do you need to tune it for? If it's stock it's pretty much a waste. Get a chip with a better basemap on it.

bencivic

i said B16a B B B B lol i have a new intake manifold, short ram intake, full exhaust, and a chipped ECU.