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Old 07-05-2015, 09:13 AM
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So I've had my 93 civic apart for about a year now, it ran fine when I took it apart to put a cage in it, reconnected the wiring (all the dash wiring was apart) now it won't start, the lights on the cluster come on but it won't power the starter or prime the pump, I started by checking the ignition and I have 2 wires that are grounded, so where do I look from here, what did I possibly do wrong in hooking the wiring back up or something else? The grounded wires are the yellow and the black/yellow wires, both use the same plug at the under dash fuse box and both are grounded there as well, not sure where they come from before there, I couldn't find them and I'm not that good with wiring, guess I need to know where they are supposed to come from to make sure I didn't mix up a connection, thanks for any help
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Main relay or you screwed something up in the last year.
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Worked for my 92 civic cx.
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Would that cause ignition to be grounded though? I've tried 2 different main relays, same results (one original relay and one that was good when pulled years ago)
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Post pictures of the "grounded" wires and their locations. Are you saying a short is blowing fuses?
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I'm using a power probe 3. I am probing at the ignition switch where the 5 wires are connected, the yellow and the black/yellow wire are both ground
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I'm using a power probe 3. I am probing at the ignition switch where the 5 wires are connected, the yellow and the black/yellow wire are both ground
With the key in ON(II), those wires should be grounded through the components, so you're not learning anything with those tests.

Start by checking the G1, G3, and G101 ground wires in the engine bay.
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This is with the key off, not in the car. I got the info off this link, it says there are no grounds on the switch, Thats why I started there. I'll recheck those grounds and clean them.
https://honda-tech.com/tech-misc-15/...agram-2926002/
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Originally Posted by colbynorwood
This is with the key off, not in the car. I got the info off this link, it says there are no grounds on the switch, Thats why I started there.
Doesn't change what I posted. The test has little diagnostic value.
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Ok, I'll recheck and clean those grounds and post results tomorrow, thanks
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I undid and wire brushed the grounds for the thermostat, tranny, and radiator support and then checked them with my power probe, all the grounds are good.

Then I checked fuses under hood 31, and in car 15,18, and 24 (I read these are common issues with starting) all fuses are good.

Then I replaced the ignition switch with a spare to make sure that is not the problem, still doesn't start.

I still believe something is wrong with the wiring that goes to the ignition switch because with the key on the cluster is lit up in position 1, in position 2 it kills power to everything and position 3 power stays off
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Any ideas what else to check, guess I'm going to start looking for a short or wiring problem??
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