Notices
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-09-2009, 05:43 PM
  #1  
Thread Starter
 
bec1488's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

- - - - - - - - - - - -

Last edited by bec1488; 12-09-2009 at 03:17 PM.
Old 03-09-2009, 05:46 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
joelmatt89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 984
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

wow you have covered everything i could think of this is a good one. Maybe it is your injectors have you tried running some sort of cleaner through them. Have you checked your timing?
Old 03-09-2009, 06:21 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Former User's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 45,219
Likes: 0
Received 44 Likes on 22 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

I agree with your idea to troubleshoot the 2-wire coolant temperature sensor under the distributor. When the engine is hot, remove sensor connector, and then measure the resistance across the two terminals of the sensor itself. You should read 200-400 Ohms, otherwise the sensor is bad.

You might also want to check the fuel injectors.
Old 03-09-2009, 06:45 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Meoshe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: CA
Posts: 695
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

IACV? Cleaned it lately
Old 03-09-2009, 07:53 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
honda.lioness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

The oxygen sensor signal does not kick in until after warm up. A malfunctioning O2 sensor will not necessarily throw a code and can cause rough running problems. I would check it and the ECT sensor. Fortunately they both are cheap and cost about the same for OEM.
Old 03-10-2009, 12:34 AM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
rocketdancer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The heath
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

hey you need to change the fuel filter because once the fuel heats up, itS more "free flowing" allowing the particles and crap get clogged in the filter, depriving your injectors, giving you a rough idle. GOOD LUCK!
Old 03-10-2009, 07:08 AM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
 
joelmatt89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 984
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

Originally Posted by rocketdancer
hey you need to change the fuel filter because once the fuel heats up, itS more "free flowing" allowing the particles and crap get clogged in the filter, depriving your injectors, giving you a rough idle. GOOD LUCK!
Originally Posted by Meoshe
IACV? Cleaned it lately
Seriously guys did you even bother to read his post where he clearly said he did both of these things
Old 03-10-2009, 05:23 PM
  #8  
Thread Starter
 
bec1488's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

- - - - - - - - - - -

Last edited by bec1488; 12-09-2009 at 03:17 PM.
Old 03-10-2009, 06:43 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
honda.lioness's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

Originally Posted by bec1488
Is there a proper diagnostic test to check an o2 sensor?
The shop manual's diagnostics are for when a code is being thrown, meaning the wiring is amiss. So the shop manual is not very helpful when there is no code and we are just talking about a degraded O2 sensor. A lot of sites talk about connecting a high impedance multimeter to the oxygen sensor signal wire so that the sensor is still sending a signal to the ECU. You measure the voltage signal as it responds to the exhaust's changes in oxygen. A stock 93 Civic has a 4-wire sensor, so you'd have to rig up a special test harness and figure out which wire carries the signal to the ECU (not hard). The signal is supposed to bounce around 0.45 volts, 0.45 volts denoting the perfect oxygen concentration. Higher than this = rich; lower = lean. Google for {oxygen sensor test 0.45v} or similar and a lot of hits come up describing what to look for.

If your Civic's O2 sensor is old, I would just replace it. The cost for an OEM Denso make of O2 sensor is around $40 at Amazon. Look up the part number at densoproducts.com, first, then go to Amazon to buy it.
Old 03-10-2009, 08:01 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
IntenseDriving00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Maryland, United States
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

I ran into the same problem before just last year when I picked up a 95 coupe. I replaced almost everything that you did. The cheapest way to start would be to replace the coolant temperature for the computer first. The problem I had was the timing belt was slightly off because the cam gear wasn't lined up correctly. Surprisingly enough, the engine was still in working condition. I was curious enough to take everything apart and just went ahead to replace the timing belt and water pump which was the only way I found that problem. Replaced it and it fixed the problem.
Old 03-14-2009, 11:23 AM
  #11  
Thread Starter
 
bec1488's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Last edited by bec1488; 12-09-2009 at 03:17 PM.
Old 03-14-2009, 11:47 AM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Pothole987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada's Ocean Playground
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

have you done a compression test? might be a bad headgasket.
Old 03-14-2009, 01:45 PM
  #13  
Thread Starter
 
bec1488's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Last edited by bec1488; 12-09-2009 at 03:18 PM.
Old 03-14-2009, 02:48 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Pothole987's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Canada's Ocean Playground
Posts: 1,134
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

Have you tried a different ECU (Computer) by chance? could be something wrong with it. also, Do you have any Check Engine Lights On?
Old 07-11-2009, 11:39 AM
  #15  
Junior Member
 
OminousG2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Pennsylvania.
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?

I've been dealing with the same thing with my mom's del sol. I wish it would just give me a CEL. She won't let me swap it either...


Changed the Cap, Rotor, Plugs, Wires, Distributor (old one had a bad bearing), coil, fuel filter, and PCV.

Checked the timing, plug gap, and compression... all are good.

Cleaned the IACV and injectors, and put some injector cleaner in the car.

I am curious. If the O2 sensor is the issue and you unhook it, would it run the same just with a CEL? Or would it run smoother and in limp mode?

Edit: Put in a new ECT sensor, seems to be better. Now it seems to sputter/hesititate between 2000-3000 rpms, after that it accelerates pretty well. Will be searching the site for more info. At least all this stuff is getting fixed.

Last edited by OminousG2; 07-11-2009 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Changed another part.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Dennin01
Acura TL, RL & ZDX
2
09-23-2018 07:17 AM
JPat
Honda Civic (2001 - 2005)
7
04-22-2018 07:09 PM
BEATurBOYS
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
09-18-2009 05:25 PM
rdwaldo
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
8
09-06-2006 09:57 AM
panda714
Tech / Misc
3
08-13-2005 10:52 PM



Quick Reply: 93 Civic runs rough once warmed up?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:35 PM.