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Old 06-15-2009, 08:21 AM
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Icon2 '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

Heading to the recyclers today and I need some advise

Looking into an OEM integra rear sway bar

I read (online) that there's three types
LS...GSR....and Type R

They all have different diameters (LS being the smallest)

I was told the Type R needs and Brace (ASR?) to avoid subframe tear out

Does the LS need a brace to avoid tear out too?

Any info on the subject would be appreciated
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

u only need the brace for the rear itr sway. i use the gsr front and rear on an ej1, for the back u need the sway and ALL its pieces plus the rear lca's. the gsr is 14mm, itr is 24mm.

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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

gsr is a 14mm and a ls is 13mm, not much of a difference but your gona need the lcas off the integra if you dont have aftermarket ones already
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

but your si should already have all the holes in the control arms for sway bars....i have a dx and i had to rob an EX for them
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

Originally Posted by rick_rabies
but your si should already have all the holes in the control arms for sway bars....i have a dx and i had to rob an EX for them
not in the rear, and neither does an ex... front yea.
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

so how do I attach them to the control arms? (rear)
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wierd i got them with holes and with the sway bars from the junk yard. trunk said ex
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

GSR rear lower control arms?

LS work too?
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

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so how do I attach them to the control arms? (rear)
u need teg lca's or aftermarket cause they have holes...

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wierd i got them with holes and with the sway bars from the junk yard. trunk said ex
no ex came with a rear sway, did it happen to be a four door? some do...
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i think so. it was green and wrecked (silly old lady)...yeah it was a four door
4dr eg FTW!!!!! so he could get the 4dr eg rear control arms if he cant find a teg
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lol... yea but the sway is like a 12mm i think.
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

SO I think I'm gonna go for the GSR IF and ONLY if I don't need a subframe brace
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

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SO I think I'm gonna go for the GSR IF and ONLY if I don't need a subframe brace
cool, then its settled gs-r sway FTW!
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itr sway bar from www.passwordjdm.com $100
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

Thanks a lot for the help guys

Here's a pic of my baby lol
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dang...that oemness is hexa clean
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nice, wish i still had my bra...
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

Thanks for the complement. I've owned that little beer can since '96
I looked at 8-10 different Si civics before I found the old man who owned this one.

only saw the ITR front sway at JDMpassword

I saw other ones Front/Back (somewhere else) for less then $180 but i would still need the brace and LCA's
Old 06-15-2009, 09:16 AM
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

I got the whole OEM mask but haven't had it on for years

Check out my leather steering wheel wrap I did this weekend.....tore my hands up really good lol....took me almost 2hrs Directions said...TIGHT IS RIGHT
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

And yes....I got my A/C going a week or two ago.
I do all the work on my car but the A/C was a new venture into treasure hunting and a little frustration....R-12 baby!
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

nice wheel too, mine is similar but i have the leather honda cover.

btw... just get the f/r gsr sways with the rear lcas from the teg; and u can use the stock front lca's. most aftermarket lca's suck and are only a bling factor. got my sway setup for like 40 bucks at a yard.
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

So I am under the assumption that my si front LCA are good to go and have mouting for a sway? I am out of town and can't jack my car up

I got some cool guys that are good to me at the recyclers but $40 seems cheap as hell!!!

Maybe I'll get lucky
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

u SHOULD have a stock sway 21mm already, the gsr is 22mm. i upgraded but its up to u. for the rear u need the sway, all brackets and the lca's... lol its like a 15mm
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

You might want to get something a bit bigger than the stock GSR sway bar...as mentioned, it's only 14mm. It really depends on what your suspension setup is. A stiffer rear will rotate faster...so if you already have pretty stiff springs then you won't need a crazy sway bar.

I also have a 92 Si with a B16, I'm running Ground Controls with shelf rates (read: not too stiff) and a 21mm rear sway bar. It rotates quite well, but it's not oversteer city like I've felt before in a DC2 with stiff suspension and the JDM ITR rear sway bar (23mm). It's a nice balance, so far I really like it.

But yeah, make sure you install everything correctly and get a subframe brace. If not, the sway bar will either rip out of its bushings or rip off your existing subframe.
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Default Re: '92 Si w/B16 needs sway bar advise

I figured s GSR rear set up was the way to go for me.

I have neuspeed race 2-1/4" drop with KYB's and Camber Kit

My 14" rims allow quite a bit of flex on 60series tires.

I figure the GSR rear sway will improve my cars under-steer (which it does have but not as much as the LS swap I had in it for 10yrs). It will hopefully balance it out more.

I did purchase the parts/hardware today from a GSR (still had ABS chord on one)

But it wasn't $40......best I found was $70 (after haggling from $100)

Bought it....

Now to piggy-back off the topic and talk about the bushings. I did purchase a black OEM Integra front upper strut bar. Now that I have stiffened my suspension (to some minimal degree...or at least I think), How much strain is going to these bushings? I understand the physics that the energy of weight transfer will, inevitably, go 'somewhere else' but I had a friend kinda scare me when he said that the bushings will go pretty quick.

On a scale of 1-5...how much more strain do you guys think is on the bushings?

Thanks for the input so far.

And for the record, I don't drive like a maniac but I do like to get up on the freeway's and sling shot in...who doesn't? And if $70 bucks is good bang for the buck...then I'll be happy about the change.


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