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Old 03-15-2014, 01:48 PM
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Default 92 Civic SI NO CODES! NO START!! Stumped!!

Hey Everyone, Hope all is well. I have an issue with my 92 civic SI. As already stated, I'll tell you what happened.

1. Car just died, intermittent start next day, fully dead. Was running perfect.
2. Car threw no code with 2P paperclip trick. CEL light stays lit full-time.
3. I read 0 code = new ecu. I installed new ECU. No Go.
4. Threw a new MAP at it, no go.
5. I am getting almost 50 lbs PSI with fuel.
6. I am getting BRIGHT WHITE spark, all 4.
7. Timing belt lines up.
8. Fuel pump primes.
9. Relay clicks.
10. Fuel at the rail.
11. Plugs newer.
12. Wires newer.
13. Compression within normal values.

This car REALLY wants to start, but just wont. Without codes, I'm up the creek here. Im LOST!!!!

Also, this question has been ambiguous on the internet...and it seems NOBODY can answer this. IS there a scanner for OBD1 to plug into the 3pin, next to the 2 pin port to pull the codes since the Check Engine Light stays lit and gives me no codes. In other words, what is the other 3 pin port used for? I am out of ideas and anything could and would help.
Thank you everyone!!
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Old 03-15-2014, 01:54 PM
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Does it start with starting fluid? If so get a noid light and check for injector pulse
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Steve,
Thanks for the reply. I did do the ether trick, it popped....then died.
I also took out my stethoscope and listened to all of the injectors and also did a visual. They are working.
What Im concerned with is why there's no codes. if an injector/s went, I guess it would have been a code 16, but again, no codes.
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Default Re: 92 Civic SI NO CODES! NO START!! Stumped!!

Originally Posted by Munz
IS there a scanner for OBD1 to plug into the 3pin, next to the 2 pin port to pull the codes since the Check Engine Light stays lit and gives me no codes. In other words, what is the other 3 pin port used for? I am out of ideas and anything could and would help.
Thank you everyone!!
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OBD1 for Honda requires the "Honda Interface Module" and the corresponding software that you must license from Honda.

3. Honda Diagnostic System Personal Computer (PC) Software

This software turns your laptop or desktop computer into a functional diagnostic system tool capable of reading OBD diagnostic codes.

Hardware and Software requirements (PC not included)

Honda Interface Module (HIM) New - P/N EQS05A35570 - $796*, Refurbished - P/N AHM35570101R - $642* (limited to stock on hand), refer to “Control Module Reprogramming Tools” for further details
Honda Diagnostic System Software Package (not included in cost of HIM tool)
PC with RS232 port
NOTE: You must be a current Service Express subscriber to subscribe to the software updates, and to get access to the latest documentation . For an overview , click here to view the HDS Tester User Guide.

Ordering the Honda Diagnostic System Software Package:

To order the HDS software package, first log on to Service Express, select “Order Diagnostic Tools,” then choose HDS Software Package.
The projected annual software package cost is $840* and for this you will get the same updates, at the same time that dealers receive them.
Software is delivered over the Internet (DSL or broadband high-speed connection recommended due to file size).
If a high-speed connection is not available, software can be supplied on a CD at no additional cost. Call Helm, Inc at 949 330-7152 to request the CD delivery option).
* Pricing subject to change without notice.
** To read diagnostic codes on Honda Passport and Acura SLX vehicles, you need the Vetronix Mastertech OBD II tester, available directly from Vetronix at 1-800-321-4889, ext 4, or check their Web site at www.vetronix.com.
So as you can see, you are looking at close to 2000 dollars just to be able to reprogram your ECU. Cheaper to chip your OBD1 ECU and buy Hondata S300.
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Default Re: 92 Civic SI NO CODES! NO START!! Stumped!!

ok lets go back to the basics on this your getting spark, your compression is good, and you add fuel(i.e.starting fluid) and it runs. sounds like your having a fuel issue. also obd1 systems are so basic unless its a hard fault like complete loss of a sensor a codes wont come up.
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I would say get a new fuel filter and check flow at fuel rail. Are you checking pressure from filter or regulator?
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