92-CivicLX

I'm new to the Honda world and I purchased a 92 Civic Sedan last year and now it's time to begin the project. The 1st thing I wanna do is get an engine/tranny swap but can't decide between an H22 or B18c. Can someone tell me the Pro's and Con's of both swaps? I know the H22 will require some mods but will the handling be a huge issue? Hope I can get some detailed feedback

thanks

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

I got this information from the engine FAQ thread that is stickied at the top of the forum:

B18C1 (or JDM B18C)
These come out of an Integra GSR.

Pros
Good Hp and TQ numbers (170, 121 ft/lbs respectively)
DOHC VTEC
Tons of potential
High revving

Cons
Expensive
Becoming moreso as people keep scooping them up
Slighty longer tranny than the ITR and B16

H22/JDM F20B

Pros
200 hp
H22=156 ft/lbs torque
F20B=145 ft/lbs torque
Great torque
DONT WEIGH THAT MUCH MORE THAN A B SWAP!!
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550

Cons
Harder to install than a B/D motor
transmission feel is vague IMHO
Less info out there for the swap (aka, less experience as they are less common)
Price of swap is comperable to a B18C5 after everything is said and done (mounts, etc)

EJdrew

^^^ Very good info.

92-CivicLX

andoxviii, I don't think we're talking about the same B18C engine. Doesn't the JDM B18C engine have 200 HP/ 137TQ w/Rev-limit: 8,900 rpm?

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

Oh ok, well you never specified which B18C engine. In North America, all Honda engines have a number after the letter. A GSR engine, for example, is a B18C1, and a Type-R engine (which you are talking about) is a B18C5. In Japan, though, both of those engines are simply called a B18C because they have no number after to distinguish them.

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

Here are the Pros and Cons of the B18C Type-R engine:

B18C5 (or JDM B18C)
This is found in the Integra Type-R. IMHO this is the best swap for a Civic.

Pros
GREAT HP and TQ numbers (195 and 134 ft/lbs)
High revving
Hand built motor from Honda
Optional factory LSD
Best transmission for a B series from the factory
Red valve cover

Cons
EXPENSIVE
If JDM ITR is used, the 36mm axle 32mm hub problems occur

92-CivicLX

Excuse my ignorance but what it is "JDM ITR"?

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

JDM means Japanese Domestic Market. That means the car was made to be sold in Japan.

ITR means Integra Type R.

TheRappist

Red valve cover, that adds 1.5 hp. and .4 ft-lbs

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

Oh, and with regards to the redline, a B18C Type R engine revs to 8400 rpm.

Here is a picture to help...

Integra Type-R:


Here is a Spoon cluster which shows the redline you may be thinking of:

andoxviii

iTrader: (1)

Haha...yeah I don't necessarily agree with the pros and cons 100%. As I said, I just copy-pasted that info from the engine FAQ thread.

92-CivicLX

I knew what JDM meant LOL. I just didn't understand the ITR part but thanks

TheRappist

Lol I know, I wasn't directing it to you, I know you copied it. It is just a funny pro

Agent_EM1

I'd go with B-Series if I were you.. Just an opinion.

haveaniceday

Go with the B!

batallic

H

92-CivicLX

Explain why :p

92-CivicLX

[QUOTE=andoxviii;37446242]Oh, and with regards to the redline, a B18C Type R engine revs to 8400 rpm.

Here is a picture to help...

Integra Type-R:


^^^ Will that fit my 92?

batallic

have u read the faqs