5 speed only shifts with engine off?!
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5 speed only shifts with engine off?!
For some reason, I'm unable to shift gears while the engine is running. However, I can shift into any gear while the car is off and then start and run it. To shift gears, engine would need to be turned off, gear shifted, and then engine restarted.
Could it be one of the engine mounts causing pressure on the tranny or something? Like if I loosened them up, ran it, and then tightened a mount, or completely unrelated? I'm stumped.
Could it be one of the engine mounts causing pressure on the tranny or something? Like if I loosened them up, ran it, and then tightened a mount, or completely unrelated? I'm stumped.
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I think its time for a new clutch. The Springs in the clutch might've fell out and messed everything up. happened to my 93 LX.
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I just put the clutch back in, after rebuilding my motor the past few weeks. The clutch is quite new, has less than 10k miles on it.
Would air in the system cause this? Or the pressure plate on too tight? I tried not to tighten it too much.
Would air in the system cause this? Or the pressure plate on too tight? I tried not to tighten it too much.
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Pull the starter and check the pressure plate bolts... If they are not tight enough this happens. If not that then I would check to make sure the throw out bearing seated properly.
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i would have to say the its either your clutch or you have a problem with your clutch hydro system...i would start with checking to see if you fork is moving down by the slave cylinder... ive seen both be problems....
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pressure plate bolts SHOULD be torqued to 19ft/lb not just tighten it
if you tight it too much, it wont let go of the clutch disc and wont allow you to shift
also make sure your clutch pedal, M/S cylinder/ clutch lines are ok (no dents in them)
if you tight it too much, it wont let go of the clutch disc and wont allow you to shift
also make sure your clutch pedal, M/S cylinder/ clutch lines are ok (no dents in them)
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Whats the easiest way to get to it? I've gotta unbolt the bellhousing and take off the tranny mount? I assume this is easier than taking off the 3 engine mounts and accessories and lifting the motor out... ugh, I just had this thing apart and its my daily driver!
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i know when mine did this, there was a little piece that snapped of on the clutch, and was stuck between. wouldn't allow me to shift.
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When I started it in neutral, and try to put it in 1st gear, it won't go into gear, but the car will slightly move forward just by lightly pressing the gear **** up toward 1st. If I start it in 1st, the shifter won't move, even to neutral.
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Re: 5 speed only shifts with engine off?!
off topic but my homie one time shifted my car while he was in the passenger seat n i didnt even touch the clutch, he just pushed the **** in the gear it was in twice n told me to let go of the gas n bam he shifted to 2nd, n again i did as he told me n he went to 3rd.. :/ sorry if its nothing to do with this but i was really tripped out n sounds related?? lol..
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Ya, I don't really wanna try rev-matching, cause I can't really stop the car good without being able to shift into neutral at any given time.
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Over tightening the pressure plate bolts will do nothing more than fatigue the bolts, it will have absolutely nothing to do with the operation of the pressure plate.
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Re: 5 speed only shifts with engine off?!
If it were that loose, it would likely make some noise too.
A couple of things are the most likely issues. Number 1 being the possibility of air in your slave cylinder. When you pulled things apart, you could have introduced air into it, or maybe someone hit the clutch pedal with the engine/trans out and you didn't notice it and stuffed the piston back in when throwing it back together. Number 2 would be getting the disk in backwards and it is now bottomed out on the flywheel and not releasing between it and the pressure plate. Next thing would be, look around and make sure the throw out bearing isn't sitting on the work bench still. Also as a possibility, the pivot could have worn through the clutch fork.
A couple of things are the most likely issues. Number 1 being the possibility of air in your slave cylinder. When you pulled things apart, you could have introduced air into it, or maybe someone hit the clutch pedal with the engine/trans out and you didn't notice it and stuffed the piston back in when throwing it back together. Number 2 would be getting the disk in backwards and it is now bottomed out on the flywheel and not releasing between it and the pressure plate. Next thing would be, look around and make sure the throw out bearing isn't sitting on the work bench still. Also as a possibility, the pivot could have worn through the clutch fork.
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Ya, one of my friends pushed on the clutch pedal while the block was out. Would this mean there is air in the hydraulic system??
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i def. agree with this........ you need to start with the easier stuff like checking the hydrolic system. if that is all good you need to replace your clutch setup... pressure plates can mess up regardless of the age of it.... its mechanical... that means it can brake at anytime....
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I had the same problem a couple of months ago. I had to put more brake fluid in my clutch reservoir and from there, I just hand pumped my clutch for a minute and it felt more stiff afterwards and was able to shift. Hopefully you get this fixed soon!
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Bleeding the lines seemed to help, not entirely fix the whole problem, but it is noticably much better!
The thing is now, my clutch disengages about 1/2 or 1 inch off the floor, where the grab point used to be about an inch pushed in.
The thing is now, my clutch disengages about 1/2 or 1 inch off the floor, where the grab point used to be about an inch pushed in.
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Re: 5 speed only shifts with engine off?!
Because your master cylinder or slave cylinder are leaking. Do you not read? I'm pretty positive I posted that before.
When was the last time you replaced/ rebuilt them?
When was the last time you replaced/ rebuilt them?