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2000 Ek Hatch build- Done, but far from it!

Old 05-26-2012, 09:20 AM
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Default 2000 Ek Hatch build- Done, but far from it!

First off i would like to just say hello to everyone here!
Iv searched the forums here for years and now i finally decided to join. My car is a 2000 ek hatch with a 97 jdm h22a swap. Engine is basically stock with the exception of header, full 2.25'' exhaust, AEM CAI, and a tune. other notible mods include: k-sport coilovers, skunk 2 camber kit, Mugan racing seats, Type r front and rear lip, jdm yellow fog lights, carbon fiber hood and wing and more. For the past two summer's i have absolutely loved the car! I had a 1992 nissan 240sx with sr20det swap, and a 2001 honda prelude se in the past and both cars were not as much fun or as cheap and reliable to own as my civic. The car is absolutely in mint shape, 150,000 km's on the body and never been winter driven. Not even a spec of rust on the thing. Anyways back to the reason for this thread.... More power! The h22a is fun, as a lot of you guys would know. But i want to have more fun, a lot more fun!

So here's my thoughts on the direction i want to go next. First off i want to ditch the h22a, sell it for what ever ill get for it. Then i want to put in a b18b and boost it!! why u ask? because of a few things, dont hate just read my list.
1. Power steering again!
2. No axel binding when high speed cornering (number one reason is handling!)
3. less weight in the front of the car
4. Cheaper to build for boost
5. More reliable when boosted
6. Better transmission (no stupid cable tranny)
7. More Aftermarket Support

My Power goals are 300-350 hp. and my budget will be about 5k plus whatever i get from my h22a for everything. I want to make it a reliable build, as this will be my summer time daily driver. So far these are the things i think i will need. please let me know if i need other parts, and add to my list as well as suggest better or cheaper companies that will improve reliability.

-Axels and mounts or course since i have an h22a right now
-Ill need to patch the floor where the shift linkage will go (h22 uses a cable tranny)
-eagle rods
-weiseco pistons?
- crower cams, valves, retainers (stage??)
-acl bearings
-Better head gasket?
-what turbo is best? cheapest? im thinking a t-28 from a s14 silvia might work?
- ebay turbo piping
- ebay bov
- What transmission? Will the stock b18b tranny suffice? lsd?
-bigger radiator? i currently still use the stcok civic one with no problems with my h22
-what ecu? will a tunned p-28 work?
-what mounts?
- can i leave the block stock and still be reliable for the power i want?
-ebay intercooler?

thanks everyone! Please dont say use the search. I have been searching for a long time with lots of forums with ppl just giving advice and then arguing and never really finding the concrete answers to my questions.
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Default Re: 2000 Ek Hatch build- Done, but far from it!

Originally Posted by silverhatch13
Please dont say use the search. I have been searching for a long time with lots of forums with ppl just giving advice and then arguing and never really finding the concrete answers to my questions.
You should search some more. In particular you should actually search a build that is closest to, or matches exactly, what you want to do. Saves you time and guesswork.

Try the Forced Induction forum because you're asking the same (pardon me for saying) nauseating questions that get asked at least once a week.
Forced Induction
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Otherwise all you're going to get is more arguments in THIS thread like the others you say you're gotten.
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I Have been searching those threads for awhile now and i still haven't gotten all the info i need before digging into my new project. I really want a full list of all the parts im going to need to make this a reliable daily driver while achieving my hp goal. I want to know all the things i dont need to do as well so i can save some money rather then wasting it on parts that are not necessary. The threads iv looked at just dont answer all my questions thats why i posted.
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I don't see how that's possible. You aren't the first person that wanted to boost a car and make "X" power. There are DOZENS of build threads for you to copy and get that parts list. I know this because that was the method i used when I was doing MY turbo build.

Every. Single. Question. You. Asked. Has. Been. Answered. Before.

https://www.google.com/search?q=300j...w=1666&bih=872

You do not want to be spoonfed this info.
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h2b
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keep the h deuce and buy at h2b kit. h2b will make alot more power than a b18 with less mods. h22s are already sitting at 200+. you can easily reach your 300+ goal sticking with the h22
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Originally Posted by progekSiR
keep the h deuce and buy at h2b kit. h2b will make alot more power than a b18 with less mods. h22s are already sitting at 200+. you can easily reach your 300+ goal sticking with the h22
I know i know, iv looked into that route as well, and since i have an ek it would all tuck under the hood with no hood risers. And since the h2b kit uses the b-series mounts i believe since your using a b tranny would this eliminate the axle binding im getting? But then there is cost to this as well. The h2b kits are not cheap! to get more power out of my h22 i would want to build it anyways. (after three summers of running her, shes not the healthiest h22 around anymore lol) I mean it still rips like it always has but i wouldn't trust modding the crap out of it on stock internals anymore. And i would like my power steering back as well, and most of all i wanna go turbo, v-tec is awesome but im missing turbo. and a 300+ hp turbo car that weighs 2300 pounds sounds like alot of fun to me!

So again with my original post would a T-28 turbo from a s14-15 silvia be big enough to get my hp goal? with the b18b.
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I can see you are going to refuse to do any research on your own. Does that turbo flow enough? Answer that question and you won't need anyone to answer it for you.

Yu should start by looking at this thread.
LST / LS-T Turbo B18A B18B setups

Everything you can imagine done to boost that engine has already been done. No need to ask a single question about it. Read.
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I can see you are going to refuse to do any research on your own. Does that turbo flow enough? Answer that question and you won't need anyone to answer it for you.
I have been doing research, iv been researching about this for a while im just asking a specific question that i haven't seen come up. If your not here to help then stop posting on my thread, why join a forum in the first place if your not going to help anyone and just tell them to search for it. Your just wasting your time as well as mine.
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How much does a T28 flow then?
I found this in 5 seconds on Google so I don't know where it is you're "researching".
http://www.sr20-forum.com/turbo/3137...25-t-28-a.html
But those are non-Hondas.

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Here's a search result for all of the internet via Google using the keywords "max horsepower for a t28 b series".
https://www.google.com/search?q=max+horsepower+for+a+t28&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=pCK&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&sclient=psy-ab&q=max+horsepower+for+a+t28+bseries&tbs=search%3 Fq%3Dmax%2Bhorsepower%2Bfor%2Ba%2Bt28%26ie%3Dutf-8%26oe%3Dutf-8%26aq%3D&lr=&as_filetype=&oq=max+horsepower+for+a +t28+bseries&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...9136.106 04.0.10719.8.8.0.0.0.0.148.807.6j2.8.0...0.0.hcUN3 i8QjrE&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.o sb&fp=75172bbf586f4a27&biw=1666&bih=872

Originally Posted by Turbo-LS
that tiny t28 wont even come close to 300whp and wouldnt be any good on a b series
Where are you searching again?

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Why are you always such an ***? You literally sit on HT all of the time. I see you on sooooo many threads doing the same thing, telling every single person to search and criticizing everyone else's builds. WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE? If your going to be such a douche, why dont you find something else to do with all of your time? /thread
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I guess furnishing links to the resources they cannot seem to find and trying to lead people to research for themselves is being a douche? NO one ever seems to remember that part.

Post #2. Re-read it. I tried to get him to read the right resources but apparently the OP wants it just handed to him. And unless YOU are going to answer any of his questions, you should have stayed OUT of it.

BOOST IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT SPOONFED TO YOU. If you knew anything about the subject you would know that. And don't tell us you searched when the questions you're asking scream that you didn't. I have 3 links in my sig alone that would have answered most of these questions.
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Originally Posted by grumblemarc
I guess furnishing links to the resources they cannot seem to find and trying to lead people to research for themselves is being a douche? NO one ever seems to remember that part.

Post #2. Re-read it. I tried to get him to read the right resources but apparently the OP wants it just handed to him. And unless YOU are going to answer any of his questions, you should have stayed OUT of it.

BOOST IS NOT SOMETHING YOU WANT SPOONFED TO YOU. If you knew anything about the subject you would know that. And don't tell us you searched when the questions you're asking scream that you didn't. I have 3 links in my sig alone that would have answered most of these questions.
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PARTS LIST FOR A B18B TURBO BUILD
https://www.google.com/search?q=PART...ient=firefox-a
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Here's one where a 17 year old actually put together a solid parts list to start with.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/acura-integra-6/300whp-b18b-turbo-setup-need-help-setup-thankz-2933916/
Everyone else in the thread helped him fine tune it.

All found by doing a quick search.
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Here's one where a 17 year old actually put together a solid parts list to start with.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2933916
Everyone else in the thread helped him fine tune it.

All found by doing a quick search
Well thanks for the info and links! I appreciate it a lot. You could have just don this without being a bit of a dick about it. I was just asking for some help and you did so thanks again!
Why join a forum and be doing a project without making a thread for it? I just wanted to hear some setups and idea's and opinions from people on what i have planned to do.
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H2B with GSR trans and a 57 or 60 trim turbo kit from Spoolin all with in budget and will get you the goals you have. Plus H2B is fun and not as common.
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H2B with GSR trans and a 57 or 60 trim turbo kit from Spoolin all with in budget and will get you the goals you have. Plus H2B is fun and not as common.
Thanks for the site; Spoolin performance seems to have some really nice kits for good prices! But im really leaning towards ditching my h22a, i want a car that i can track not just for drag racing. And from what iv heard from people and on some forums the b18 will handle boost better then the h22a. If i were going to throw any boost at mine i know i would want to build it for piece of mind. And building h22's are alot more expensive then building a b18b.
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