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Old 03-16-2006, 12:05 PM
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Hey,

Im about to drive to las vegas but im alittle worried because if I drive agressive and I shift from 1st to 2nd there is a crunch sound. But when im driving normaly its fine. It catchs 2nd everytime. Could it be my clucth master cylinder?

I have a 99 civic ex with just a short shifter.

Thanks in advance!
Old 03-16-2006, 12:06 PM
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What kind of crunch sound? like a gear grinding?
Old 03-16-2006, 12:08 PM
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dont mash it and you should be fine... and most likely the "crunch" you hear is a syncro going south... id check the tranny oil first though just to rule out the possibility
Old 03-16-2006, 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spracer03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont mash it and you should be fine... and most likely the "crunch" you hear is a syncro going south... id check the tranny oil first though just to rule out the possibility</TD></TR></TABLE>

yea that would be your syncros. it used to happen to me but then i replaced trannys and it went away. plus that short shifter is doing much good.
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Same exact thing happens to me. Just shift a tad bit slower into second.
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-"hey doc, it hurts every time i do this"

-"well, don't do that"

Don't mash it like a 15yr old kid playing an arcade game. Use finess.

Edit: Also try to needlessly downshift into second or if you know how, double clutch cause it will take some wear off your syncro. I had to do this with an old VW.


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Default Re: 1st to 2nd gear (romoracing)

when i owned a civic that year mine did the same thing and it was fine for the couple years i had it...i think it has something to do with the syncros but as long as it goes into gear and you dont rag on it itll be fine
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Its like a metal on metal sound. Im going to have take it easy on the shifting. Im going to look into a tranny rebuild. my reverse is acting up also. thanks guys.
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For your reverse. Make sure you always are at a standstill when you shift into it and always shift into first before shifting into reverse.
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check your tranny fluid
Old 03-16-2006, 07:29 PM
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Replace tranny fluid with honda mtf. That can cure some ailments.
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Default Re: 1st to 2nd gear (romoracing)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by romoracing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey,

Im about to drive to las vegas but im alittle worried because if I drive agressive and I shift from 1st to 2nd there is a crunch sound. But when im driving normaly its fine. It catchs 2nd everytime. Could it be my clucth master cylinder?

I have a 99 civic ex with just a short shifter.

Thanks in advance!</TD></TR></TABLE>

then drive normally on your trip
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I had the same problem on my old civic, If I shifted into 3rd gear going over 5k it would grind no matter what. I could never drive it hard without looking like a noob when it would grind.

It doesn't matter how you shift it into gear if you use finess or whatever, it will still grind. Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KoLRaNcH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the same problem on my old civic, If I shifted into 3rd gear going over 5k it would grind no matter what. I could never drive it hard without looking like a noob when it would grind.

It doesn't matter how you shift it into gear if you use finess or whatever, it will still grind. Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats exactly what happens. In high rpm shifts it grinds. It drive me nuts while scaring me at the same time.

Thanks guys. Im not trying to put anyone down because you guys helped me. But how am i going to drive "normally" at the drag strip? To las vegas I can drive normally but im talking about the long run. Im going to replace my clutch, master cyl., flywheel, brushing and tranny fluid.

Thanks again!
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Default Re: 1st to 2nd gear (KoLRaNcH)

wow ,,a 99 tranny grinding already? When you change the tranny fluid put in some pennzoil syncromesh..It covered up the 3rd gear grind in my 16 year old B16 tranny..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.speaker &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow ,,a 99 tranny grinding already? When you change the tranny fluid put in some pennzoil syncromesh..It covered up the 3rd gear grind in my 16 year old B16 tranny..</TD></TR></TABLE>

nice thanks for that info. Ill go buy some tomorrow!
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Old 03-17-2006, 02:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by black_dohc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Synchomesh </TD></TR></TABLE>

whats the ratio?

Pennzoil Synchromesh:????%
and
Tranny Fluid:????%
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Default Re: 1st to 2nd gear (Mr.speaker)

penzoil that thing worked my tranny and turned it into butter no more grinds but its just a bandage until i get mines rebuild
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phyz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">penzoil that thing worked my tranny and turned it into butter no more grinds but its just a bandage until i get mines rebuild</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats what i need. Once I go turbo thats the 1st thing to get rebuilt!
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I used to have the same problem you're describing. It went away when I replaced my clutch. I'm not saying you need a new clutch, but it might be worth looking into. Check your trans fluid and clutch master cylinder fluid first though.
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