BuildingUp

Hey guys just got a 97 civic ex and i was thinking about teaching myself to drift in it. Are there any parts that are in my stock civic that couldn't handle some basic drifting? Also are there any basic upgrade you all would recommend for a beginning tuner. I don't have very much money right now but i am saving up. I am looking into buying just a steering wheel and installing it myself and then saving up for a year or two to buy some quality parts for the engine. Any other thoughts or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

D16SiHatch

it's a civic. it's fwd. why the hell would you want to drift in it. really doesn't work all that well without that whole rwd thing. i suppose you could just lock the rear tires on some fast food trays though

chewyv

Title says cx but you say you have a ex?!? Misleading!!! But I will give you some answers anyways.
1. Your fwd won't be able to handle drifting so convert to rwd via f22c and $$$
2. I would recommend the basic lightweight wheels and tires for you to start off.
3. If you want to learn to drift I wouldn't get a steering wheel that eliminates the air bag.
4. Thoughts and ideas. McDonald's food trays are easily stealable.

v8killaz

yeah man your civic is fwd and will not drift

you could swap a 2jz in it though. i dont think it would be harder than a f20 seeing as you would be using a whole new rear end. you would def need a good clutch and some good suspension. even in stock form a 2jz will be plenty enough.


the swap would be very costly though. id say around 10k if you do everything right and proper. id suggest going with a junkyard rwd car and swapping the whole rear end in the civic. the civic frame will have to have supports made on it so their no frame twist and such. I dont know how rigid the civic is.
fabricate all new mounts and do the wiring. and position engine and shifter so it sits comfortably for you.

BlanketJackson

Don't drift it

D Griff

I'd say the best mod for drifting with your civic would be selling it and buying a rear wheel drive car.

BuildingUp

ahahahahh thanks a bunch guys. I guess that shows you all how new to the scene i am. I guess since drifting is out of the question would you all recommend keeping the d16y7 and molding it? I found a d16y8 intake manifold for sale and i have heard of something called a mini me swap could you all tell me about it and the kind of power my engine would gain from it. By the way its a cx sorry about the misleading post.

D16SiHatch

alright i'll bite. a mini-me swap consists of swapping in a sohc vtec head in place of the current non-vtec one. don't expect anything extravagant but you will gain some noticeable horsepower. you will also want to do this in conjunction with a y8 intake manifold.

google search or honda-tech search mini-me and you'll find what you need there.

this is a great link i found some time ago illustrating the y7 to y8 manifold swap.

http://www.onecamonl/y.com/diy-forum...swap-pics.html

(remove the "/" from between l and y)

BuildingUp

i was looking at that swap and the people were saying why didnt he swap out his whole motor for a d16z6? Do you think that would be a good idea for me? Im really looking to add the vtec to my car more than anything right now

ED94LIFE

If you are going to do a whole swap and not looking to spend a whole lot of money than do a d16y8 swap because a d16z6 isnt quite as powerful and an ek comes with the y8 anyways.

D16SiHatch

power output is almost identical, you would never notice the difference.

another reason to go with the z6... it doens't spin rod bearings nearly as frequently as y-series engines tend to.

v8killaz

mini swap total waste of time and money do you want 10 more hp

grab a bseries and go at it

89prelude069

i have a mini me swap in my hatch and it really isnt too much more powerful than a y8 i agree with everyone else do a b series swap

D Griff

You have a good attitude, I like that. Honestly, unless you really crave a mini me swap I probably wouldn't bother. It'll get you some power yes, but you'll end up wanting more and probably trying to swap and/or boost later anyway. I would save up for one of those options. I'm still driving with my Y7 until I can afford a swap (still in undergrad for one more year). If you just want something a little quicker, go ahead with the mini me; if you want a quick car, save that money to use towards something nicer.

And to whoever suggested swapping in a whole Y8/Z6, a mini me usually makes a little bit more power than these because it has slightly higher compression.

D16SiHatch

i agree, however other people have done the mini-me swap and were pleased with it. so who am i to tell them they are wrong. it's cheap to do and it doesn't take much technical know-how to pull off. think of it as a stepping stone to bigger and better things, a b-series swap for example lol.

D16SiHatch

wouldn't expect it to be. but if you compared it to a y7 (96-00) b7 (92-95) or dpfi b2/mpfi a6 (88-91) then it would be a much larger power increase.

89prelude069

very true lol i havent drove anything with a y7 so i dont know lol. it definitely does have more ***** than a y8 though not a whole lot but its for sure noticable.

Hondenver

Let me start by saying welcome to the honda community.

Now for your car..... If you are dead set on getting a different motor then save your money and by a B series B16, B18 B/C1/C5/CR
Don' bother with a mini swap it isn't enough power increase for the money.
Don't get me wrong I love D's but they aren't for everyone (K ******) haha

I would suggest upgrading other things... suspension, brakes, maybe cleaning up your exterior and interior..... just some suggestions

I'm sure your about to get told to forget about a B swap and get and H swap or K but honestly I'm getting a little bit tired about all this H series preaching.

It's your car so ultimately it is your decision, If you want seats with a Triceratops embroidered into it then do it F*ck the HYPE!

Good luck with whatever you do and if you have anymore questions ask away...............

chewyv

mpg performance

BuildingUp

Thanks a ton for the welcome guys, damn you all are nice. The general vibe im getting from you all is to save for a b series engine which i will gladly do (gonna take a while since im a undergrad). As for parts i want to buy a set of parts once so im gonna look for quality & reliability over looks and price(im not rich at all but i will spend money if i get the good stuff). Do you all think you could reccommend a suspension system for my cx hatch and how the **** can i get my gauges to display my rpms i hate not being able to see that.

v8killaz

you got off lucky man you should see the threads when i joined asking stupid questions lol

tehteg

For a suspension setup many people recommend/talk up koni yellows and ground controls. That is personally what I run as well and it rides great.

As for the cluster, if you want a tach there are a couple options you have.
-You can get an ex 5 speed cluster
-Ex automatic cluster will also work
-Si cluster
-S200 cluster
It all depends on how big of a budget you're working with. Ex 5spd or auto cluster will be the most cost effective for you.

hahahahahaha

wow. i hate to bash, but 99% of this thread has dumbed me down about two notches.

sorry.

BuildingUp

thanks a bunch guys. i realize im really new thats why i have all these questions. I really appreciate all the help

Arthas

OP if youre trolling, kill yourself.
If youre not, buy yourself a 1986 Toyota Corolla SR-5. I hear those are monsters when it comes to drifting.