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Old 01-01-2009, 12:05 PM
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Hi all, Great site! I have a 96 civic ex that runs at 180-186 degrees all the time when driving or idling. I replaced the thermostat and the coolant temp sensor with no change. On the highway the injector pulse width ranges from 9-12 miliseconds which seems high. All of the other sensors seem to be ok and within range, but the rear 02 sensor reads rich .7-.8 mv. but goes normal at idle. Im only getting 24 mpg on the highway at 65-70 mph which seems really low. Im not sure, I just got this car and my old one got 32-35 mpg. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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What's the status on tune ups? Spark plugs, air filter, etc.. Do you have a check engine light?
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all new, no check engine light, no memory codes...
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Am I crazy or should this car get better mileage?
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Its cold here right now about 20-25 degrees.. if I let this thing idle the temp wont go above 180-183 degrees according to my scanner and the guage is about 1/3 of the way up. Im not sure if this is normal or not. I thought it would still warm up until the fan comes on.
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Default Re: 1996 civic runs cold-poor mileage

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Am I crazy or should this car get better mileage?
No, you're not crazy. It should get better than that. My '96 4 door consistently gets 34-36 mpg and that's with a LOT of city driving.

I know you just got the car but do you know if the timing has been messed with lately, say, timing belt replaced maybe?
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yeah the belt was replaced recently but before I got the car. I was thinking about checking the marks. It runs great so I would think its OK. Do you think if its off a tooth it could affect mileage this much? Thanks for the help..
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Being off a tooth on timing is not good for anything. Check your timing marks, the engine can only compensate so much.
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Default Re: 1996 civic runs cold-poor mileage

sounds like thermostat may be stuck open or not the right temperature setting
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Default Re: 1996 civic runs cold-poor mileage

Its a brand new honda OEM I just put in and it had a brand stant before that---same problem..
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coolant temp sensor?
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Default Re: 1996 civic runs cold-poor mileage

Thats also new OEM..
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Did you check the base ignition timing?
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I was going to but I didnt have time to do that today. I will do it tommorrow and post the results.
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