Blue-Civic-Hybrid

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Looking good with that exhaust!

CandyRedRC46

Thanks! I'm happy I went with that third resonator. It sounds great! Now I need to get the rest of this build up to the same level as the exhaust. I really over engineered the **** out of it, I don't think it would be a bottleneck until over 300whp lol. I need to build this engine and get a 100 shot now to make use of it lol.

Brandon8973

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spanishstud

iTrader: (2)

Dude real nice. How much did the shop charge to weld that bad boy up?

CandyRedRC46

It was $250 out the door. I brought the car in with the factory exhaust completely removed and running an open bisi header. I supplied the vibrant flex pipe and 12 inch OAL resonator, 2 magnaflow mufflers and all the piping. They supplied the hangers and welded everything. I still need to get under there and check everything out, but so far so good. It sounds great and looks great. Its really stealth and almost appears stock and at low revs it pretty much sounds stock. Nothing hits or rubs. I am pretty happy with it.

CandyRedRC46

okay I got a couple fly by videos, nothing special honestly all civics seem to sound the same on camera phones, but I said I would do it, so here you go. Maybe I can get something higher quality without the neighbors weedwacking in the background lol, like so in car footage , because it actually sounds great in the car while driving. Also I was messing around with the launch control feature on my bike and I've got a few videos of that to redeem me from that beat up civic lol.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCSKTLW6IIE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fj_JYEQeFo



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WigNwSTkI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPJA5Ao-bw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siCAJc_YpKM





It is becoming really apparent I need to do something with this engine ASAP. It runs really well, but it is burning and leaking oil terribly. I need to do a swap and or rebuild like last week.

Herrera

nice brother

CandyRedRC46

Okay I just pulled the trigger on some goodies:

Arias 75.05mm 11.5:1 pistons with thermal coating
Bisimoto rods
OEM .027 HG
Cometic .051 HG
Full gasket set
Fidanza 7.5# fly wheel
Exedy Clutch
Bisimoto thermal intake manifold Gasket

CandyRedRC46

I still need to pick up a few more things:

OEM oil pump (New and then ported)
OEM Water pump (New)
New performance radiator
Full set of gauges (oil pressure, water temp, air/fuel, volts, egt, fuel pressure etc...)
OEM bearings (after I get the engine out, apart and spec'd)
Hondata s300
Timing belt
Timing belt tensioner?
AEM tru timing gear?
A mild ported and rebuilt head
Edelbrock intake manifold (ported together with the head)
Performance Valve springs and new factory retainers/lockers/lost motion assemblies etc... (I read that titanium retainers aren't built with longitivity in mind and I will put miles on this car.)
A nice stage 2/level 2 turbo cam (something thats not too harsh on the valvetrain and won't lose spool, low end torque, drivability/reliability; But will still bleed off some dynamic compression, give good top end and a nice lope at idle. I maybe asking for too much here, but I am not looking for an all out race cam). I am thinking Rocket or Colt. I DO NOT WANT A CAM THAT FAILS AFTER A FEW THOUSAND MILES AND DESTROYS MY ENGINE.

CandyRedRC46

My goal here isn't an all out race build or to break any records. I want to do it in two parts.

The first part will be a nice responsive and peppy 150ish whp build that is streetable/reliable, but over engineered to the point that it could handle 3 times the power output. (I might do a part 1.5 here and get a 100 or 150 wet shot to really test this build out before dropping $3000 on turbo parts)

Then the second part of the build, after I have sorted out the suspension, put a few thousand hard miles on the rebuilt engine and I am confident that I assembled it correct and no debris is going to cause an oiling issue or something and destroy my build, I am going to start saving up for a GO-AUTOWORKS Pro Kit Civic Integra 300-700HP and e85 fuel system parts.

CandyRedRC46

My thinking here is that with an around 10.8 compression ratio, some thermal coating, a mild cam, an extremely high flowing ram horn manifold, some light port work and most importantly e85 and good tuning, I can run a medium sized turbo (I am leaning towards a gtx2867rs that is rated to 475 or 480 crank hp?) and medium compression, to make a very efficient, decently responsive and decent power turbo d16z6. I would say 400-450whp goal for now, but I would still be happy with high 300s whp if it is responsive/reliable, especially in a 2000 pound car lol, but I dont want a car that is a dog until 6000 rpms.

Here is the compressor map for the gtx2867r. I have not been able to find a turbine map.
http://www.atpturbo.com/root/release...366-1_comp.jpg

CandyRedRC46

I am 100% open to any advice, tips/trick, info, parts etc that I am missing here. Please feel free to contribute. This is my first engine build and I will be taking my time. The turbo stage is a long long ways away, but I would like to be 100% ready for it.

CandyRedRC46

I spoke with Rocket motorsports yesterday and I am going to have them do some mild head work and regrind a stage 4 or 5 cam for me. I might also possibly have them do the block and balance the entire rotating assembly (crank/crank pulley/pressure plate/flywheel/etc) as well. I am still looking into it.

Blue-Civic-Hybrid

iTrader: (1)

Wow, you went from mild to wild!

Well that escalated quickly!

92civicdxhatch

Read this thread.. My advice to you without writing a book, would be to buy a core Z6 engine and build that, all while driving what you have now. Save yourself the headache of tearing down and putting back together multiple times.


This way you can throw money at your turbo build, and drive what you have now, without spending money twice..


Like are you really going to put a timing belt on, drive it 20k before the turbo build, then use that same one? I wouldn't, but I also wouldn't throw money at it twice.


In the end do what you want, but that's what I'd do.

doctorake

looking good

CandyRedRC46

Well the guy that I bought the header from, has had all this stuff sitting in his garage forever. He has been trying to sell it to me for months and I was on the fence about how I wanted to proceed with this build (motor swap? basic Rebuild? performance rebuild? etc...). But, then he gave me an offer that I couldn't refuse, so I jumped on it. I took all parts that he had stockpiled that were generic d series related and compatible with a z6 build. He still has a bunch a y7 related parts, shame, I could have got a fully worked head and cam out of this deal, but I wanted to stick with the z6 configuration.

CandyRedRC46

I know what you are saying is the proper way to go about it and I do have d15b7 that I can swap in while I do the engine building, but I don't see any harm in breaking it in All Motor and working out all the kinks and enjoying a 150ish whp d16 for a few thousand miles while piecing together the turbo kit. I definitely wont wait 20,000 miles after building the engine to go turbo. Maybe 5,000 miles tops. I have a few other vehicles, so I wont be racking up the miles that fast. I have only put on 1600 miles on this car since titling it in my name. But, after 5000 miles I don't see the motor needing a rebuild before going turbo. I think just changing/inspecting the plugs, checking the compression and comparing to the initial compression after the first start up and then doing a valve clearance inspection should be more than enough. I will inspect the timing belt, but I wont be changing it after less than 5000 miles.

singlejingle

exhaust sounds real good man and you just put me up on that website thanks i just would of put a 2 bolt flange after the header so its not a pain when you want to drop the header but she's looking good man

CandyRedRC46

Thanks! Yeah it will be a little bit of a pain to drop the header or upgrade the exhaust later on, so I might have a couple flanges or vbands welded in. I am not going to worry about it too much right now, as its working great and I am going to upgrade to a 3 inch exhaust when I go turbo.

1wickedsol

Looking good!! I just bought a '93 SI HB. Major project car. She's in rough shape. It's sad to see how some people treat these cars. I mean, I know they're darn near bullet proof, but does that mean it's ok to wreck the interior and exterior with dents, tears, and neglect? Best of luck to you. You're moving in the right direction.

Bently_Coop

Cool build.

Do you already have the Edelbrock I/M? If not a y8 is said to out flow other factory d-series I/M's combined with the GSR throttle body I would think sufficient enough.

CandyRedRC46

Yeah I hear you, it is a real shame. Luckily my interior is pretty nice, but exterior wise mine needs some work too. My paint is faded and I have a rust spot by the antenna and the rear fenders. Thanks for the encouragement.

CandyRedRC46

I am running a z6 IM and gsr throttlebody right now, but I plan on going edelbrock manifold and 66mm throttlebody with the rebuild. I have heard that about the y8 manifold too, but I want to go big.

CandyRedRC46

So I just picked up a nice little d15b7 to do a quick refresh on and then swap in. That way I can still take the car to work and take my time building the d16z6 right. I also cleared out my garage so I have plenty of space to work. It looks like my pistons, rods etc should be coming in this week. I am getting excited even though it's still going to be a very long time before this car is actually fun to drive lol.