1992 Civic Si G-machine (SCCA Solo STC Build)
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1992 Civic Si G-machine (SCCA Solo STC Build)
After a long search, I picked up this one owner, unmolested, 1992 Civic Si in August. The car is really clean.
Initially the plan was to do a stock restoration with some very minor upgrades (shocks, tires, rear swaybar) for SCCA Solo Road Tire FWD. I have a 2011 WRX that I run in the new Road Tire classes, and although the car was very successful nationally this year (co-driver drove it to a ProSolo National Championship), I'm just really bored with the Subaru. Anyway, the Si is a bit too slow for RTF, even locally, so I had been toying with the idea of doing a light Street Touring build on it.
Anyway, the car broke the drivers front lower ball joint mid-slalom at a local event last month, luckily this car is slow enough that it wasn't a very spectacular failure, but it was enough to get me to make the decision to go a head with a nice big build instead of just patching her up.
Motor
B16A Second Gen from Hmotorsonline.com
Hasport B-series Mounts 62A
DC Sports Header 4:1
Magnaflow Catback w/ Giant Turn Down
Yonaka Catback (quiet)
Blackworks Adjustable Test Pipe
AEM Short Ram Intake
New Valve Cover Gasket
NGK Platinum Spark Plugs
NGK High Perf. Spark Plug Wires
WIX OEM Fuel Filter
New OEM Cam Seals
New OEM Exhaust Manifold Gasket
Gates Racing 'Blue' Timing Belt
Gates Racing Water Pump
Gates Racing Tensioner
New OEM Dipstick
Air Conditioning Deleted
Cruise Control Deleted
Transmission
OEM Civic Type R Trans w/ LSD
New Exedy OEM clutch
New OEM Flywheel
New OEM Axles
New Axle Seals
New Slave Cylinder
Prothane Shifter Bushings
Steering and Supension
OEM Manual Steering Rack w/ Quaife Ring and Pinion 3.25 LTL
New OEM Inner/Outer Tie Rods
Prothane Rear Shock Bushings
Aluminum Rear Lower Control Arms w/ Polyurethane Bushings
Prothane Rear Trailing Arm Bushings
J2 Aluminum Front Lower Control Arms w/ Polyurethan Bushings
OEM 21mm Front Swaybar
Koni Sport (Yellow) Single Adjustable Shocks
Ground Control Coilover Sleeves
GC and Summit Springs 225#/275#/400#/450#/500#/550#/650#
Ground Control Extended Top Hats
Progress 22mm Rear Swaybar
New OEM Front Upper Control Arms
New OEM Front Upper Ball Joints
Buddy Club P1 Extended Front Lower Ball Joints*
Carbing Front Lower Tie Bar
Carbing Rear Lower Tie Bar (Won't work with the Progress bar, included)
Skunk2 Pro Adjustable Rear Upper Control Arms
SPC Rear Toe Arms
Grade 14 Suspension Bolts
Brakes
Hawk HP+ Brake Pads Front/Rear
New OEM Rear Calipers
New OEM Front Calipers
New OEM Rotors
Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Wheels/Tires
OEM Wheels w/ 185/60/14 Fuzion Touring Tires
O.Z. Racing Superturismo GT 14x6 w/ 175/70/14 Pirelli Winter Carving Edge
949RACING 6ULR 15x8 +36 w/ 225/45/15 Toyo R888's*
Interior
Sabelt Camlock 3" Lap Belt only
2x Sparco Evo 2 Plus Seats
2x Racing Seat Bottom Brackets
2x Racing Seat Side Backets
New Carpet
New OEM Floor Mats
Alpine CDE 135BT Head Unit
Alpine SPE-5000 Speakers
Exterior
Front Wiper Blades
Rear Wiper Blade
OEM Sunroof
LED Brake/Reverse/Turn Signal Bulbs
NASCAR COT 200mph Wing
Miscellaneous
Assorted Wiring
Thanks for looking!
Initially the plan was to do a stock restoration with some very minor upgrades (shocks, tires, rear swaybar) for SCCA Solo Road Tire FWD. I have a 2011 WRX that I run in the new Road Tire classes, and although the car was very successful nationally this year (co-driver drove it to a ProSolo National Championship), I'm just really bored with the Subaru. Anyway, the Si is a bit too slow for RTF, even locally, so I had been toying with the idea of doing a light Street Touring build on it.
Anyway, the car broke the drivers front lower ball joint mid-slalom at a local event last month, luckily this car is slow enough that it wasn't a very spectacular failure, but it was enough to get me to make the decision to go a head with a nice big build instead of just patching her up.
Motor
B16A Second Gen from Hmotorsonline.com
Hasport B-series Mounts 62A
DC Sports Header 4:1
Magnaflow Catback w/ Giant Turn Down
Yonaka Catback (quiet)
Blackworks Adjustable Test Pipe
AEM Short Ram Intake
New Valve Cover Gasket
NGK Platinum Spark Plugs
NGK High Perf. Spark Plug Wires
WIX OEM Fuel Filter
New OEM Cam Seals
New OEM Exhaust Manifold Gasket
Gates Racing 'Blue' Timing Belt
Gates Racing Water Pump
Gates Racing Tensioner
New OEM Dipstick
Air Conditioning Deleted
Cruise Control Deleted
Transmission
OEM Civic Type R Trans w/ LSD
New Exedy OEM clutch
New OEM Flywheel
New OEM Axles
New Axle Seals
New Slave Cylinder
Prothane Shifter Bushings
Steering and Supension
OEM Manual Steering Rack w/ Quaife Ring and Pinion 3.25 LTL
New OEM Inner/Outer Tie Rods
Prothane Rear Shock Bushings
Aluminum Rear Lower Control Arms w/ Polyurethane Bushings
Prothane Rear Trailing Arm Bushings
J2 Aluminum Front Lower Control Arms w/ Polyurethan Bushings
OEM 21mm Front Swaybar
Koni Sport (Yellow) Single Adjustable Shocks
Ground Control Coilover Sleeves
GC and Summit Springs 225#/275#/400#/450#/500#/550#/650#
Ground Control Extended Top Hats
Progress 22mm Rear Swaybar
New OEM Front Upper Control Arms
New OEM Front Upper Ball Joints
Buddy Club P1 Extended Front Lower Ball Joints*
Carbing Front Lower Tie Bar
Carbing Rear Lower Tie Bar (Won't work with the Progress bar, included)
Skunk2 Pro Adjustable Rear Upper Control Arms
SPC Rear Toe Arms
Grade 14 Suspension Bolts
Brakes
Hawk HP+ Brake Pads Front/Rear
New OEM Rear Calipers
New OEM Front Calipers
New OEM Rotors
Goodridge Stainless Steel Brake Lines
Wheels/Tires
OEM Wheels w/ 185/60/14 Fuzion Touring Tires
O.Z. Racing Superturismo GT 14x6 w/ 175/70/14 Pirelli Winter Carving Edge
949RACING 6ULR 15x8 +36 w/ 225/45/15 Toyo R888's*
Interior
Sabelt Camlock 3" Lap Belt only
2x Sparco Evo 2 Plus Seats
2x Racing Seat Bottom Brackets
2x Racing Seat Side Backets
New Carpet
New OEM Floor Mats
Alpine CDE 135BT Head Unit
Alpine SPE-5000 Speakers
Exterior
Front Wiper Blades
Rear Wiper Blade
OEM Sunroof
LED Brake/Reverse/Turn Signal Bulbs
NASCAR COT 200mph Wing
Miscellaneous
Assorted Wiring
Thanks for looking!
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Re: 1992 Civic Si G-machine (SCCA Solo STC Build)
Put the brand new steering rack in, and it immediately started leaking from the passenger side. Looks like it must be missing a seal or something. I hate it when brand new parts are crap. Should be getting a replacement soon.
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Work on your launch.. roasting the tires doesnt improve your times.
You also have to work on being smoother everywhere.
Id call your run "overdriving" to say the least. slow it up a bit, the car wont plow as much, and your times will be quicker.
You also have to work on being smoother everywhere.
Id call your run "overdriving" to say the least. slow it up a bit, the car wont plow as much, and your times will be quicker.
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I set the fastest 60' time of any vehicle at the DC ProSolo this year (in my other car), so I think I know a thing or two about launching.
LOL.
Where in that video is the car "plowing"?
LOL.
Where in that video is the car "plowing"?
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Saying your the best driver ever and not accepting advice isn't going to make you a better driver. Even if it's something you don't want to hear, listen and keep it in the back of your head. No need to take offence to it.
On a side note, very solid car and good plans for it.
On a side note, very solid car and good plans for it.
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Saying your the best driver ever and not accepting advice isn't going to make you a better driver. Even if it's something you don't want to hear, listen and keep it in the back of your head. No need to take offence to it.
On a side note, very solid car and good plans for it.
On a side note, very solid car and good plans for it.
I never said I was the best driver, I was just stating some credentials to explain why dirty19 is 100% wrong as to what he said about the driving, and about the attitude of the car in the video.
What that video depicts is the fastest way to launch the car, and there was no understeer anywhere on course. I'm still trying to figure out where dirty19 thinks he sees understeer.
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If you close the moonroof/windows, you will be more aerodynamic and improve your times... but any Xperienced autoXer should know that. I'm kidding, of course.
I thought it was an excellent video.
I thought it was an excellent video.
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What was that left turn at 1:10?
Is this the oversteer?
All in all looked like a decent run, I do understand the comment of not needing to burn your tires since you are not really making much time, may have been the best 60ft time but by how much? If you do not mind paying the price of rubber though go ahead and do it.
Nice run.
Is this the oversteer?
All in all looked like a decent run, I do understand the comment of not needing to burn your tires since you are not really making much time, may have been the best 60ft time but by how much? If you do not mind paying the price of rubber though go ahead and do it.
Nice run.
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This is a 100% stock '92 Si with OEM springs, NO rear swaybar, and a frozen power steering pump - needless to say, oversteer doesn't exist on this car.
But to answer your question, 1:10 was a downshift to first while taking advantage of the braking zone, then floored in first on exit, spinning the tires all the way to the finish. Open diff FTL.
The clutch was on it's last leg. You would have to either baby it in first, or you'd have to pop the clutch and hope they spin. It's a front wheel drive car with barely 100hp and little skinny 185 series tires, it's not going to 'hook' no matter what you do.
And FWIW, I've spent almost $6000 on tires this year, so long story short, I don't mind paying for tires. In fact, one of the major reasons I bought this car is that it is easy on tires, and the tires are dirt cheap.
And the next fastest 60' time was a 400+hp Evo9 with 315 Hoosier A6's.
But to answer your question, 1:10 was a downshift to first while taking advantage of the braking zone, then floored in first on exit, spinning the tires all the way to the finish. Open diff FTL.
All in all looked like a decent run, I do understand the comment of not needing to burn your tires since you are not really making much time, may have been the best 60ft time but by how much? If you do not mind paying the price of rubber though go ahead and do it.
Nice run.
Nice run.
The clutch was on it's last leg. You would have to either baby it in first, or you'd have to pop the clutch and hope they spin. It's a front wheel drive car with barely 100hp and little skinny 185 series tires, it's not going to 'hook' no matter what you do.
And FWIW, I've spent almost $6000 on tires this year, so long story short, I don't mind paying for tires. In fact, one of the major reasons I bought this car is that it is easy on tires, and the tires are dirt cheap.
And the next fastest 60' time was a 400+hp Evo9 with 315 Hoosier A6's.
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Perhaps, but are 1.7 60' times babying the Evo9?
Okay, I'll give you another example, the only car to set a faster 60' time at the SCCA ProSolo Finale last month in Nebraska, was a 1000hp GTR with 335 Hoosier A6's.
The GTR was putting down mid 1.5x 60' times, way faster than any of the 250 cars at the event, we were the second fastest at teh event and in the high 1.6x range with our car.
I guess I should also mention I'm running these times in a 100% stock WRX on street tires....
Okay, I'll give you another example, the only car to set a faster 60' time at the SCCA ProSolo Finale last month in Nebraska, was a 1000hp GTR with 335 Hoosier A6's.
The GTR was putting down mid 1.5x 60' times, way faster than any of the 250 cars at the event, we were the second fastest at teh event and in the high 1.6x range with our car.
I guess I should also mention I'm running these times in a 100% stock WRX on street tires....
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so you are saying you were not the fastest 60 foot times with the civic?
Even a stock 2011 WRX would not beat a 400+hp EVO unless he is babying it, tires would pretty much not even matter unless someone was running snow/all season.
No point in arguing, just saying a lot of info but not a lot of clarification about what is actually happening.
Even a stock 2011 WRX would not beat a 400+hp EVO unless he is babying it, tires would pretty much not even matter unless someone was running snow/all season.
No point in arguing, just saying a lot of info but not a lot of clarification about what is actually happening.
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Well, I guess the 248 other people at every ProSolo I've been to this year were 'babying it'....
I was very clear about what was happening. I clearly said "in my other car", and I clearly stated what my other autocross car was in my OP. And if you think I'm BS'ing, head on over to www.scca.com The results are right there in black and white. I was at DC, Ohio, and the Lincoln Finale.
I was very clear about what was happening. I clearly said "in my other car", and I clearly stated what my other autocross car was in my OP. And if you think I'm BS'ing, head on over to www.scca.com The results are right there in black and white. I was at DC, Ohio, and the Lincoln Finale.
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Actually, all I said was ....
... and I said it because I was genuinely confused as to where you see my car understeer in that video, because not once does is understeer in that video.
... and I said it because I was genuinely confused as to where you see my car understeer in that video, because not once does is understeer in that video.
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Well, I guess the 248 other people at every ProSolo I've been to this year were 'babying it'....
I was very clear about what was happening. I clearly said "in my other car", and I clearly stated what my other autocross car was in my OP. And if you think I'm BS'ing, head on over to www.scca.com The results are right there in black and white. I was at DC, Ohio, and the Lincoln Finale.
I was very clear about what was happening. I clearly said "in my other car", and I clearly stated what my other autocross car was in my OP. And if you think I'm BS'ing, head on over to www.scca.com The results are right there in black and white. I was at DC, Ohio, and the Lincoln Finale.
You come across as rude and slightly "holier than thou". Yeah your WRX can beat all the other cars in its class I am sure in 60ft times, but I highly doubt it is beating some of the more built cars like the ones that run SM.
I suggest taking others criticism and maybe trying to find out more of what they are talking about instead of just bashing them. That is the key to becoming a top driver. Good Luck on the rest of the season.
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New steering rack came in today, installed it into the subframe and ready to go back in....
And the control arms I just refinished to match the subframe...
And the control arms I just refinished to match the subframe...
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Not much of an update, grabbed a few new parts like Carbing lower tie bars and a Gates Racing timing set. I've been disassembling and cleaning a spare motor I have in preperation for a rebuild.
One thing that was interesting and frustrating, every autoparts store and distributer I've spoken with believes that my car should have an axle that is about 23" when fully compressed on the passenger side. I can confirm that while that axle 'will work' on this car as long as you drive like grandma, or only drive hard in a straight line, it will bind when the front passenger suspension is loaded.
The axle I removed was 24.5" when fully compressed. Walking into several autoparts stores, and speaking to online vendors was hilarious because they all say that I'm crazy. Anyway, this is what I've inferred so far: The smaller axle works, so people have been using them incorrectly for years. This has caused stores to stop carrying the 24.5" axles, and amazingly, to remove the part number from their computers. I've got the right axle coming from a supplier, but it's just hilarious that people have been half assing their cars for so long, that the right parts are disappearing.
What uses a 23" axle? An EF?
One thing that was interesting and frustrating, every autoparts store and distributer I've spoken with believes that my car should have an axle that is about 23" when fully compressed on the passenger side. I can confirm that while that axle 'will work' on this car as long as you drive like grandma, or only drive hard in a straight line, it will bind when the front passenger suspension is loaded.
The axle I removed was 24.5" when fully compressed. Walking into several autoparts stores, and speaking to online vendors was hilarious because they all say that I'm crazy. Anyway, this is what I've inferred so far: The smaller axle works, so people have been using them incorrectly for years. This has caused stores to stop carrying the 24.5" axles, and amazingly, to remove the part number from their computers. I've got the right axle coming from a supplier, but it's just hilarious that people have been half assing their cars for so long, that the right parts are disappearing.
What uses a 23" axle? An EF?
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DC Pro 60' times are terrible to compare due to the uphill start and slick surface. Anything AWD has a major advantage. Just saying...
Nice build, but you're fighting an uphill battle with a '92 Civic for STC.. I have a '95 EX that I built for STC and I also have a well prepped '91 Si for STC. In no way would I ever get anywhere close to the times I set in my '91 with my '95. I know my coupe weights a bit more than your hatch, but still.. Nevertheless, good luck and have fun with it.
Nice build, but you're fighting an uphill battle with a '92 Civic for STC.. I have a '95 EX that I built for STC and I also have a well prepped '91 Si for STC. In no way would I ever get anywhere close to the times I set in my '91 with my '95. I know my coupe weights a bit more than your hatch, but still.. Nevertheless, good luck and have fun with it.
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Wow such a nice creampuff Si hatch, not to many around in this condition.
So lets do this to it instead have a person whom really enjoys loves the car(true honda enthusiast)purchase it
So lets do this to it instead have a person whom really enjoys loves the car(true honda enthusiast)purchase it
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DC Pro 60' times are terrible to compare due to the uphill start and slick surface. Anything AWD has a major advantage. Just saying...
Nice build, but you're fighting an uphill battle with a '92 Civic for STC.. I have a '95 EX that I built for STC and I also have a well prepped '91 Si for STC. In no way would I ever get anywhere close to the times I set in my '91 with my '95. I know my coupe weights a bit more than your hatch, but still.. Nevertheless, good luck and have fun with it.
Nice build, but you're fighting an uphill battle with a '92 Civic for STC.. I have a '95 EX that I built for STC and I also have a well prepped '91 Si for STC. In no way would I ever get anywhere close to the times I set in my '91 with my '95. I know my coupe weights a bit more than your hatch, but still.. Nevertheless, good luck and have fun with it.
I'm not planning to run this car outside of local and regional events, so although this car is not generally nationally competitive, its going to serve its purpose. The eg actually has shown some potential in Prosolo STC in the past since it has slightly more power.
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