sinister357

this is in concerning another post about the "$10 chip" that was locked. i am still curious of how this "chip" might work. people have asked the value of the resistor used with no response but i'm lead to believing the stock air temperature sensor is probably just a thermoresistor that changes resistance according to temperature. if you take one and measure the resistance at whatever temp you want your engine to see and take a reading with a meter, you can duplicate what they have. what i want is someone to actually get their car dynoed to see if there is any change with this modification. just an idea worth trying.

ej1 pilot

this is gonna get locked too unless you talked to the moderator before making it again

bushfreakz

ok .. it does work but not the right way..
for instance.. it fools the ecu into thinking the air is colder when its not... therfore your going to have incorrect buring and fuel atomization.. the right way would be like a hondata i/m gasket.. it will actually keep the temperature lower.. and not by tricking the ecu... id rather buy the gasket and not have to worry about cleaning my block out all the time..

Apocolipse269

dude, yes the chip works...blah blah blah. But also you're making your ECU think ur engine is running cool, which allows the ECU to compensate for the 10 HP. it would do the same to drive in canada. only difference is that you are adding 10 hp by tricking your ECU, so if ur engine does overheat you wont get a light, and ur temp gauge wont go up, ur engine will just die b/c you wanted 10 hp at the cost of ****** up ur ECU. so go stick ur lil $10 chip up ur *** and maybe you will get some common sense for $10

screech

before this gets locked AGAIN yes that is how it works but if your buyin this chip off ebay why just spend and extra $20 and get a cold air intake then you wont be "trickin" your ecu into thinkin its colder air

Apocolipse269

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by screech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">before this gets locked AGAIN yes that is how it works but if your buyin this chip off ebay why just spend and extra $20 and get a cold air intake then you wont be "trickin" your ecu into thinkin its colder air </TD></TR></TABLE>

ABK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocolipse269 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude, yes the chip works...blah blah blah. But also you're making your ECU think ur engine is running cool, which allows the ECU to compensate for the 10 HP. it would do the same to drive in canada. only difference is that you are adding 10 hp by tricking your ECU, so if ur engine does overheat you wont get a light, and ur temp gauge wont go up, ur engine will just die b/c you wanted 10 hp at the cost of ****** up ur ECU. so go stick ur lil $10 chip up ur *** and maybe you will get some common sense for $10</TD></TR></TABLE>

Missinfo. It has nothing to do with overheating of the motor.

That chip does exactly jack **** though anyways. Lets say that computer does think that air is colder, so it will add more fuel (in this case it won't add to much extra fuel). You will start running rich you loose power. End of story some one lock this ****.

Apocolipse269

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ABK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Missinfo. It has nothing to do with overheating of the motor.

That chip does exactly jack **** though anyways. Lets say that computer does think that air is colder, so it will add more fuel (in this case it won't add to much extra fuel). You will start running rich you loose power. End of story some one lock this ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, say it does work, if the ECU thinks the engine is cold, it wont do anything if it does overheat, so u **** ur engine over

hatchfreak92

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well, say it does work, if the ECU thinks the engine is cold, it wont do anything if it does overheat, so u **** ur engine over</TD></TR></TABLE>

the air intake temp sensor only tells the computer what the tempature of the ambient air coming in is so that it will apply the a\f ratio. so it will run a little rich but since most cars are made for feul economy this would give it a little boost. and the AIT sensor has nothing to do with telling the computer the temp of the whole engine. thats why its called "air intake temp sensor" duh!!

jaM3s Bond

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well, say it does work, if the ECU thinks the engine is cold, it wont do anything if it does overheat, so u **** ur engine over</TD></TR></TABLE>

your IAT's have nothing to do with what your thermostat says.

Your thermostat is what tells you your car is overheating.

gamby

Proof on a dyno??? A real dyno??? Legit test???

drewbie

<FONT SIZE="6">you get what you pay for</FONT>

AVA

Lol if you think an intake is going to get you anywhere near 10 hp you are extremely diluted

benhatch101

break out the chains

cause im gettin locked up...locked up
they wont let chu out

screech

im not sayin an intake is goin to get you 10hp just that it would be a better investment than this 10 dollar resistor

ABK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchfreak92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the air intake temp sensor only tells the computer what the tempature of the ambient air coming in is so that it will apply the a\f ratio. so it will run a little rich but since most cars are made for feul economy this would give it a little boost. and the AIT sensor has nothing to do with telling the computer the temp of the whole engine. thats why its called "air intake temp sensor" duh!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, but it won't give it power believe me. Most of the cars are made to run a little bit on the rich side. So that will just make it run more rich.

hatchfreak92

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by screech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sayin an intake is goin to get you 10hp just that it would be a better investment than this 10 dollar resistor</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a cold air intake in m car and with this resistor i felt the acceleration increase dramatically compared to my CAI and my exhaust. Those 10 dollars made more of a difference than my $120 intake and $150 exhaust put together.

ABK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchfreak92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i have a cold air intake in m car and with this resistor i felt the acceleration increase dramatically compared to my CAI and my exhaust. Those 10 dollars made more of a difference than my $120 intake and $150 exhaust put together.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I call total BS. I mean if you would understand how the fuel managment works you wouldn't be saying this ****. Therefore Horseshit.

This is his previous post somewhere:
One of my freinds told me one day to look on ebay for this "chip" that is supposed to make your car faster. He told me he put one in his car and made a big diff. So i bought one for ten bucks on ebay. The guy i bought off of said what it did was made the ecu think that the intake temp was a cold 42 degrees and average gain was 5-20hp!! To my surprise it was just a resistor. it said to put it on intake temp sensor plug. I put it on thinking it wouldn't do much,I got in my eg and was shocked at the difference it made. that little thing made more of a difference than my short ram+exhaust put together. I told all my friends and all had the same reaction. so i am spreading the word. if u r interested in getting one just go to ebay and type in "20hp".

Cocaine is hell of the drug.

hatchfreak92

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Exactly, but it won't give it power believe me. Most of the cars are made to run a little bit on the rich side. So that will just make it run more rich.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually you are wrong. Most car are made to run lean for better gas milage that is why wwhen you buy those performance chips it maps out your a\f ratio and runs it a little richer to bring out true power of engine.

ABK

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchfreak92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually you are wrong. Most car are made to run lean for better gas milage that is why wwhen you buy those performance chips it maps out your a\f ratio and runs it a little richer to bring out true power of engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep okay, kind of sounds like you are trying to sell those things.

Just think colder air=density goes up=more oxygen, right?
more oxygen needs more fuel to get the max perfomance and took keep the mixture right. That's exactly what the ECU is doing.

Plus how the **** did you find that your sensor was reading 42 degrees? It only sending out voltage readings, you can't tell what it's really sending out.

b18c1civic95

hmm, i knew a guy that used to sell these lil resistors on ebay. he would go buy like 20 of em from radio shack. if they had em in stock and then sell them on there with an instruction sheet. i didnt ask much about it. hes one of those guys that always has a business idea. anywayz those r gay. why not just go get somebody elses bin and use that. and dont get it tuned cuz you dont need it !! lol
yes its a joke do not use somebody elses bin file. especially if you THINK you're going to get it tuned SOON.

murmur9

this sh it is gay, if you knew the first thing about cars....you wouldnt be using this chip. lock this thread.....its getting old, and the ignorance of the noobs who want to try this....just stupid.

Cain Marko

In before the lock cause this thread is gh3y

Ricey McRicerton

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchfreak92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually you are wrong. Most car are made to run lean for better gas milage that is why wwhen you buy those performance chips it maps out your a\f ratio and runs it a little richer to bring out true power of engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually YOUR wrong. Have you ever tuned a car with a wideband? Have you ever even seen or touched a wideband 02 sensor? Do you know what a wideband is? If you answered no to any of these questions then you can kindly shut the **** up and stop spreading misinformation.

Cars are meant to run RICH from the factory because when a car is running leaner, it runs hotter and can be potentially dangerous to engine components. Cars are designed to be safe and last for hundreds of thousands of miles, not to run on the fine thin edge of destruction.

Now on to this chip. No, it doesn't work. You're actually slowing your car down more, because your dumping more fuel into your engine without adding more air. By doing this, the engine is running below its target operating temperature inside the combustion chamber, and you not only lose power, but lose efficency.

Long story short, this thing doesn't work. Your asking for problems later on down the road. Save your money unless you plan to buy this thing, and then spend a hundred dollars or more on dyno time to prove wether or not it works.

sinister357

from what i have learned in tuning radio control model car engines, if an engine is runned rich, it actually produce less power even though it's consuming more gas. the perfered setting would be right at the threshold of being too lean for best performance. it'll cause more wear and tear because of less oil but remember this is a 2 stroke. so if in fact this resistor is causing your engine to run richer then normal, you're actually losing power. - but - what if we could trick the engine to run slightly leaner??? would the same theory apply? (except it's a 4 stroke so we wouldn't have to worry about the lubrication problem.) hmmm...i wonder.




Modified by sinister357 at 1:16 PM 9/18/2004