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soopafly828 07-31-2004 10:44 PM

[FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness...
 
WARNING:
1. If you want to sell the VAFC/SAFC later on you might want to reconsider doing this, since the buyer may or may not like the modification.

2. Be very careful when soldering because there is very limited amount of space to work with.


I've had my VAFC for awhile now, and the first thing i noticed when i got it was that the wire harness was really hard to detach and seemed really flimsy/delicate.

So what I decided to do was create my own harness.

Tools:
Soldering Iron & Solder
Shrink Tube
(1) 15 Pin Male Plug
(1) 15 Pin Female Plug
(2) 15 Pin Covers
and alot of patience


Here are the 15 Pin Plugs and Cover with some extra wire(more on that later)
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-974576663.jpg


First thing I did was cut the VAFC harness
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-166223259.jpg


This is how it looks with all the wires on the plug
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-867761848.jpg


Here is a picture of both ends soldered to their respective plugs
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-799858290.jpg


This is how it looks completed
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-651843141.jpg


The plugs fit together really snug and have not come undone by themselves. I am very confident that they will not come loose unless you physically pull them apart yourself.


And for the extra wire...I have always wanted to put my VAFC where I can see it on long drives, but since i did not feel like rerouting the cable from the harness. I decided that i would make another plug where i can mount my VAFC while still being able to keep the mounting point in the glove compartment.

So this is what I came up with...

I found a place in my car that would be most convenient for myself, so i chose to make a plug on the din pocket. This part is user preference.
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-737861849.jpg


this is how the wiring looks
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-584963977.jpg


Picture of it in the car
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-780565566.jpg


This is how it looks on. I still need to run to the store to pick up another APEXi mounting bracket.
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-352600064.jpg


Total cost of modification:
http://www.skafia.com/myPix/soopafly828-124986791.jpg


Personally i like the new mounting plugs, in my opinion they are much easier for me to remove my VAFC. Additionally i can either keep my VAFC in the glove compartment or keep it within view by my stereo without having to deal with rerouting the cords.


Modified by soopafly828 at 12:02 AM 8/1/2004

Deluzional 07-31-2004 10:52 PM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (soopafly828)
 
great job on your write-up, I could have used this like a year ago http://images.honda-tech.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif oh well

NateTL17 07-31-2004 11:14 PM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (Deluzional)
 
Great idea: Original, Clean, and Functional. We need more FAQ's like this LOL
Is that the same as a computer gameport plug?

bs-inc 08-01-2004 12:22 AM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (NateTL17)
 
Does it lose the settings if you keep unplugging it and stuff?

soopafly828 08-01-2004 12:37 AM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (NateTL17)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NateTL17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great idea: Original, Clean, and Functional. We need more FAQ's like this LOL
Is that the same as a computer gameport plug?</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are the same, the one i used is just a generic one. you can find them at any electronic store.

The only reason i didnt buy something smaller because the next one down was a 9-Pin and the VAFC has 11 wires.

I purchase all my stuff at a Orvac's Electronic in Fullerton on Raymond and Orangethorpe.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bs-inc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does it lose the settings if you keep unplugging it and stuff?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope...settings are retained until you reset them yourself

smelldaOdaa 08-01-2004 12:53 AM

i got a wiring question. if i was to do this, all i hafta do is to make sure all the wires match eachother from both ends right?

AzntaggeR 08-01-2004 03:39 AM

Re: (smelldaOdaa)
 
damn that's clever. can't believe no one has thought of this yet. this how-to makes me wish i still had my vafc https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif .

Quick99Si 08-01-2004 03:53 AM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (soopafly828)
 
I did a similar thing with my Field AFC. I used Cat6 cable (6-pair) to go from the ECU to the cupholders... the wires in there are like 24-22awg. Anyway, the tach on the AFC fluctuates noticeably, like when driving at a constant speed, it would go up/down as much as 300rpm. The speedometer doesn't do it ever, seems 100% accurate (includes speedo in k/h). Do you think that the thin wire is the cause?

Adi

BauleyCivic 08-01-2004 06:04 AM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (Quick99Si)
 
Absolutely fantastic writeup...good work dude https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Froggin 08-01-2004 06:27 AM

Re: [FAQ] VAFC/SAFC harness... (BauleyCivic)
 
Nice idea! Will do this the next time I install a VAFC!

soopafly828 08-01-2004 10:30 AM

Re: (smelldaOdaa)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smelldaOdaa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got a wiring question. if i was to do this, all i hafta do is to make sure all the wires match eachother from both ends right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep...make sure that the wires match or you might fry something


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quick99Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I did a similar thing with my Field AFC. I used Cat6 cable (6-pair) to go from the ECU to the cupholders... the wires in there are like 24-22awg. Anyway, the tach on the AFC fluctuates noticeably, like when driving at a constant speed, it would go up/down as much as 300rpm. The speedometer doesn't do it ever, seems 100% accurate (includes speedo in k/h). Do you think that the thin wire is the cause?

Adi</TD></TR></TABLE>

i don't know the cause for that, thats alot of fluctuation. Mine works just fine, works like the VAFC with the standard harness.


sohcvtec1995 08-01-2004 11:39 AM

Re: (soopafly828)
 
Looks good. how is it that you VAFC screen lloks like that? mine dosent. Like the display. How it has rev and thr twice?

soopafly828 08-02-2004 11:28 AM

Re: (sohcvtec1995)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks good. how is it that you VAFC screen lloks like that? mine dosent. Like the display. How it has rev and thr twice?</TD></TR></TABLE>

1. go to 2-channel under the monitor menu and select Throttle and RPM.
2. then proceed to the display screen
3. press the up arrow.

AzntaggeR 07-04-2005 12:34 AM

Re: (soopafly828)
 
im bring this thread back from the dead. i wish your pictures still worked. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif

Stoich EG2 07-04-2005 01:04 AM

Re: (AzntaggeR)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AzntaggeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im bring this thread back from the dead. i wish your pictures still worked. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

me too https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emsad.gif

menkio 07-19-2005 09:56 AM

Re: (ADVAN EG2)
 
anyone know where to get the wiring digram for a 91 ef, ecu pinouts/safc harness ?

Otherguy 07-19-2005 10:26 AM

Re: (menkio)
 
i wired mine stright to the factory harness... i wish i bought an extension... shiet...


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