[DIY] Honda Civic 92-95 JDM "Door Open" Gauge Cluster Indicator Light Install
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Re: [DIY] Honda Civic 92-95 JDM "Door Open" Gauge Cluster Indicator Light Install
I never noticed figure 3 before. That thing is rare, it's not a spoon cluster either, they're actually branded right above the odometer. See pic below:
I'd love to have one of these, but the one in the pic went for $1100 I'm just not willing to spend that much on a cluster.
I'd love to have one of these, but the one in the pic went for $1100 I'm just not willing to spend that much on a cluster.
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Wow, I hadn't noticed the 240kph cluster without the Spoon logo. I'll check my parts lists to see if I can find anything on it.
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Nice writeup I will keep an eye out for a cluster with the door ajar setup in the future.
Anyone have any experiance with fixing clusters-I got a EDM eg cluster and when you turn the ignition on the needle shoots up to 25mph and sticks there-once you move it accelerates like normal but obviously the speed is way off by 25mph.
Anyone have any experiance with fixing clusters-I got a EDM eg cluster and when you turn the ignition on the needle shoots up to 25mph and sticks there-once you move it accelerates like normal but obviously the speed is way off by 25mph.
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^ Possibly bad contacts in the back (tighten these lightly), but more than likely it's screwed. Find yourself any other UKDM gauge cluster (on ebay.co.uk) and swap over the speedo. You could try swapping over the gauge faces from any old CANADIAN cluster (top speed is the same on CDM vs. all EDM, mph (UK) or km/h (continental Europe)), but the odometer will still count kilometres (doh). Definitely easier to get another UK cluster.
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Yeah I have had so many issues with clusters in my eg I gave up on anymore-got 2 SiR clusters 1 works ok but fuel gauge reads full @ all times,the second one is well just toast has all sorts of problems-then I got this EDM one and its bad *facepalm*
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I will not be swapping the JDM white faced tach into my CDM cluster as my CDM cluster is from a CX and has no tach lol but I do want the door open indicator to work, so I gather I follow the wiring guide on this retrofit to a tee and it should function as the swapped tach DIY explains I assume? Or is there any step I am missing to do this using an existing JDM white faced cluster?
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All pigtails from the JDM cluster are included
Very good news. Thanks man.
MORE RETROFIT!
Edit: Pigtails were not included passed. trying to find another one at a half reasonable buy. May just go EDM now.
Very good news. Thanks man.
MORE RETROFIT!
Edit: Pigtails were not included passed. trying to find another one at a half reasonable buy. May just go EDM now.
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ALSO IMPORTANT: YOU NEED THE PIGTAILS! AT MINIMUM, YOU NEED THE 7-PIN ONE ON THE EXTERNAL MODULE SEEN IN FIGURE 5a. This plug is IMPOSSIBLE to find in North America and Europe. It is a 7-pin plug design that I have never seen before on any other vehicle, though you're welcome to look around and post back here.
Yeap, there it is. My EG Power Folding mirrors accidentally came with Prelude power folding relay, which works fine though. It has separate channels for left and right mirror, so thats why it has 7 wires.
I hope this helps those who are hunting the 7-pin connector.
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WHT/BLU: On the 7-pin connector, there's a WHT/BLU wire. This wire routes power from the gauge cluster through ALL of the door- and trunk-open indicator lights. It comes on while the key is in ON (IG1), and ALL the door- and trunk-open indicator lights turn on. This tests the indicator bulbs to show that they are working. It's the same principle that's tied to the BAT light that comes on at position ON (IG1), and in fact uses the same wire.
To get this to work properly, you need to add a diode AFTER WHT/BLU emerges from the cluster connector at C511 PIN 8 IF you swapped PCBs over as I detailed above. The diode direction is pointing AWAY from the cluster. Connect WHT/BLU from the door-open connector here, AFTER the diode.
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^ Hi - I have updated the DIY with more explicit details about this, including a new simplified wiring diagram. I think it will answer all your questions; let me know if there's anything else you want me to clarify!
Good luck and happy wiring.
(Also fixed all the broken pic links ... sry 'bout that.)
Good luck and happy wiring.
(Also fixed all the broken pic links ... sry 'bout that.)
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Ahhh, GREAT update! Everything is crystal clear now! Thank you for taking the time to do that... It is SO much appreciated.
Also, the 7-pin connector can sometimes be found with optional Gathers audio equipment. It's used to connect an accessory (i.e., CD player, equalizer, etc) to the head unit:
Also, the 7-pin connector can sometimes be found with optional Gathers audio equipment. It's used to connect an accessory (i.e., CD player, equalizer, etc) to the head unit:
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Re: [DIY] Honda Civic 92-95 JDM "Door Open" Gauge Cluster Indicator Light Install
I did the job on my car and the cluster worked well (for the door ajar)
the problem was that if the key wasnt in the ING position my dome light didnt come ON but just for the driver side... bizzare...
i did the interconnect with seatbelt plugs for the LT GRN/RED and didnt plug the wire of the other connector, i was thinking myself maybe if i plug it?
i did it and heard a ''tzzzz''
now the dome light dont light up and the door ajar driver side dont come on...
ive checked every fuses, checked the door switch ect...ect... ive disasemble the cluster and changed the light of the driver door then plug it back... notthing happend...
really need help :S
the problem was that if the key wasnt in the ING position my dome light didnt come ON but just for the driver side... bizzare...
i did the interconnect with seatbelt plugs for the LT GRN/RED and didnt plug the wire of the other connector, i was thinking myself maybe if i plug it?
i did it and heard a ''tzzzz''
now the dome light dont light up and the door ajar driver side dont come on...
ive checked every fuses, checked the door switch ect...ect... ive disasemble the cluster and changed the light of the driver door then plug it back... notthing happend...
really need help :S
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Sorry Deschlong, english is not my first language and explaining the problem is not that easy...
so
i did the cluster conversion in my civic 92 HB Si, in fact ive took the JDM SIR II cluster and swapped the circuit board from a CDN one.
i did all the wirring and the ''door ajar'' worked
but
the driver side door wouldnt light up the dome light unless the key is in the ignition at ON position
without the key in the car, the passenger door once opened light up the dome light
so i was thinking that maybe i did a mistake on the interconnection on the LT GRN/RED: 2-pin connector, long story short, i have rewired the wire that says to put electrical tape on it and plug it back to the conector WITH the LT GRN/RED from the cluster...
it result on a ''short'' i presume and now, the driver door in the cluster dont light up anymore, the dome light dont light up with the driver door open ect..ect..
ive tested every fuses, tested the driver door latch redid the wiring...
i dont know what to do...
i read that ''maybe'' ive damaged the ICU, is it possible?
thanks again
so
i did the cluster conversion in my civic 92 HB Si, in fact ive took the JDM SIR II cluster and swapped the circuit board from a CDN one.
i did all the wirring and the ''door ajar'' worked
but
the driver side door wouldnt light up the dome light unless the key is in the ignition at ON position
without the key in the car, the passenger door once opened light up the dome light
so i was thinking that maybe i did a mistake on the interconnection on the LT GRN/RED: 2-pin connector, long story short, i have rewired the wire that says to put electrical tape on it and plug it back to the conector WITH the LT GRN/RED from the cluster...
it result on a ''short'' i presume and now, the driver door in the cluster dont light up anymore, the dome light dont light up with the driver door open ect..ect..
ive tested every fuses, tested the driver door latch redid the wiring...
i dont know what to do...
i read that ''maybe'' ive damaged the ICU, is it possible?
thanks again
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^ Thanks. Tu peux l'expliquer en français aussi si tu veux.
I think at this point you should take some pictures of the wiring you have done so I can check it from here. Numerous clear photos, in focus, would be best. This will help you with the door-open install. If you have fried your ICU, I can't really help you there. Although your ICU and dome light (and trunk light) all run off Fuse #3 (7.5A). Swap it with a KNOWN GOOD one. Does anything else in your ICU right? (Like the key-in indicator.) Beyond that, Fuse #36 (50A) in the under-hood fuse box may have blown. Do your moonroof or power locks work?
I think at this point you should take some pictures of the wiring you have done so I can check it from here. Numerous clear photos, in focus, would be best. This will help you with the door-open install. If you have fried your ICU, I can't really help you there. Although your ICU and dome light (and trunk light) all run off Fuse #3 (7.5A). Swap it with a KNOWN GOOD one. Does anything else in your ICU right? (Like the key-in indicator.) Beyond that, Fuse #36 (50A) in the under-hood fuse box may have blown. Do your moonroof or power locks work?
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thanks for your fast answer deschlong!
you were right, 2 diodes in my ICU where fried, i have replaced it and replace the wiring like oem
for now it works like oem, im getting back under the dash to rereredo the job aiming for a full working cluster haha!!
thanks again, ill keep you posted
deschlong tu as facebook? plus facile de discuter pour le debuggage...
merci encore!!
you were right, 2 diodes in my ICU where fried, i have replaced it and replace the wiring like oem
for now it works like oem, im getting back under the dash to rereredo the job aiming for a full working cluster haha!!
thanks again, ill keep you posted
deschlong tu as facebook? plus facile de discuter pour le debuggage...
merci encore!!
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ok from now, it looks like the cluster is not sending back that a door is open...
the door ajar works, right,left and tailgate
but the dome light is not working at all even if i try to light up by the switch on it...
have a clue?
also my alarm system detect that my passenger door is open but dont detect the driver door... there is no cut wire under my dash...
the door ajar works, right,left and tailgate
but the dome light is not working at all even if i try to light up by the switch on it...
have a clue?
also my alarm system detect that my passenger door is open but dont detect the driver door... there is no cut wire under my dash...
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If the dome light doesn't come on at all even with the switch, then it sounds like there's a problem with the WHT/RED (or WHT/BLU, depending on the year) going to the dome light. Did you mess with this wire at all?
It could also be a diode issue somewhere along the way ... especially if you have an alarm that also taps in to these wires.
It could also be a diode issue somewhere along the way ... especially if you have an alarm that also taps in to these wires.
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this is my point. i have an alarm taped on the LGT GRN/RED...
okay its a logic problem, alarm syst is disconnected
if the car ing is at OFF :
open driver door : no dome light
open passenger door : no dome light
if the car ing is at ON
open driver door / Passenger door closed : dome light ON
driver door open / passenger door open : dome light OFF
driver door close / passenger door open : dome light OFF
while the passenger door (open) shut the dome light, i cant light it up even at ON position....
its weird that if my ignition is at OFF, i dont have any power on the dome light...
when the wiring was stock i had no issue...
have the same problem with my alarm... the passenger door can activate the alarm but not the driver door... ive wired the driver door switch directly to my alarm but its lightening both door on the cluster... grrrr....
maybe ive found the wrong 2 wire connector but its the only one ive found fixed on the body at the top of my cruise control module... and the ''door ajar'' works but just when the ignition is at ON otherwise if the car is at OFF door ajar dont work...
okay its a logic problem, alarm syst is disconnected
if the car ing is at OFF :
open driver door : no dome light
open passenger door : no dome light
if the car ing is at ON
open driver door / Passenger door closed : dome light ON
driver door open / passenger door open : dome light OFF
driver door close / passenger door open : dome light OFF
while the passenger door (open) shut the dome light, i cant light it up even at ON position....
its weird that if my ignition is at OFF, i dont have any power on the dome light...
when the wiring was stock i had no issue...
have the same problem with my alarm... the passenger door can activate the alarm but not the driver door... ive wired the driver door switch directly to my alarm but its lightening both door on the cluster... grrrr....
maybe ive found the wrong 2 wire connector but its the only one ive found fixed on the body at the top of my cruise control module... and the ''door ajar'' works but just when the ignition is at ON otherwise if the car is at OFF door ajar dont work...
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^ Door ajar only works when IGN is ON(II), ie., the car is running. At ON(I) all the door ajar lights should illuminate: it is a test of the circuit to check for dead bulbs.
Send some good quality pics my way - it will help the diagnosis.
Send some good quality pics my way - it will help the diagnosis.